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[TSA]

Right after you lick my balls. I am not wasting my time so you can go to blanket dismissals.

you said you were being nice

You've failed to prove that in the USA more guns=more gun crime. You won't even answer the ing question and quickly change the subject to other countries. I don't even need facts or links from you anymore, if you think you're right just answer the question, yes or no. In the US does more guns=more gun crime?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

you said you were being nice

You've failed to prove that in the USA more guns=more gun crime. You won't even answer the ing question and quickly change the subject to other countries. I don't even need facts or links from you anymore, if you think you're right just answer the question, yes or no. In the US does more guns=more gun crime?

The questions you asked me repeatedly whether or not there were more guns and if crime had been going down. I posted the Yale article stating that more guns did not equal less crime. Now it has morphed into this. The entire argument started from CC talking about good guys having guns and you babbling about deterrence.

I said I was trying to be nice. I am not being civil anymore. I don't see the point.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

But you have been wasting time. Studies of different cultures cannot be applied to ours.

Why not?

[TSA]

I posted the Yale article stating that more guns did not equal less crime.

The article about CCW? When did ever say CCW's lead to less crime? When have I ever said more guns=less crime? I've repeatedly said more guns do not equal more gun crime and you've continually refused to refute that point. You've lost this argument my Fuzzy with your failure to prove me wrong. Log off now and save some face.

[mavs>spurs]

S&W revolvers are way overpriced, imo.

my next one will be a Taurus 357. deciding between a 4" model 65 or model 66

I've heard people say that before but honestly there are many more who say it's not the same..trigger pull isn't as crisp, isn't quit as dead on accurate, not quite as well made. I'd rather just pay 200 extra for the smith and wesson name, I like the stuff they put out.

[TSA]

Why not?

That's stupid ing question. Find me another country as deeply rooted in firearms as the US and you may have a point. Again, log off, save face

[mavs>spurs]

Why not?

nah, just crofl

[DMC]

I gave you the Yale Law Review, the article from the UK's department of public health and the stuff from the Melbourne police. When you decided to not read them and try this tact of repeating yourself ad nauseum, I told you that I was not going to try and converse with you about it anymore as it's obvious what you are about.

Now I am trying to be nice but you're behaving poorly.

You strike me as one of those that doesn't see an issue with the Koch Foundation and Exxon funding the vast majority of the contrarian global warming work. It's a conflict of interest against an objective approach.

In short, he threw up a smoke screen and bolted while you were drowning in pages of unrelated material.

If the reciprocal can be shown to be true (more guns now, less crime now) how can the premise also be true (less guns would mean less crime)?

[Wild Cobra]

Why not?

Seriously?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

In short, he threw up a smoke screen and bolted while you were drowning in pages of unrelated material.

If the reciprocal can be shown to be true (more guns now, less crime now) how can the premise also be true (less guns would mean less crime)?

"smoke screen" "bolted" "drowning"

More characterization and no facts or actually addressing what was said.

The reciprocal was what I was addressing. The current contention is a strawman at best. I already explained the flow of conversation.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Seriously?

Yes, seriously. Answer the question, dolt.

[Wild Cobra]

Yes, seriously. Answer the question, dolt.

It's really simple. That's why I say "seriously?" Do you seriously not understand that different cultures respond differently to the same changes?

[TSA]

Yes, seriously. Answer the question, dolt.

[spursncowboys]

I've never been a member of the NRA. I see no reason to pay money to an organization that doesn't really do anything for me personally. I feel the same way about the CCA, BASS and a host of other organizations. Instead, send that 25 dollars to St Jude's Children's Research. You won't get anything in return except the satisfaction of money well spent.

http://www.stjude.org/waystohelp

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That's stupid ing question. Find me another country as deeply rooted in firearms as the US and you may have a point. Again, log off, save face

Another blanket dismissal. Australia was a frontiersman country that was a post colonial UK state. Just like us. They had a frontier just like us. They fought aborigines just like us and that causeed very similar opinions towards minorities. Australians are notorious as being as racist as you 3. They, before the rebuys, had a very large number of guns. Both were mainly populated by debtors ie the indentured farmers and given the opportunity to pay off debts. The difference was between religious puritanical types that were sent here and more violent types sent to Australia.

All of your GOP WASP types that are anti-gun control come from a UK cultural background. Again we were a British colony. The principles that shaped the structure of government were heavily influenced by UK and French philosphers like Locke and Colbert. Adam Smith, a scot, is a central figure in our and their economic culture. Both banking systems are similar with central banks. Our fashion is heavily influenced by them and vice versa. The Cons ution was inspired by the magna carta. Our structure of central government is the same with bicameral legislatures and a bureaucrat in chief. We share the same language for s sake.

There are no better similes to US culture than the UK and Australia. Again, nothing will convince you because you are ideologues. Ignorant ones at that.

[Wild Cobra]

I've never been a member of the NRA. I see no reason to pay money to an organization that doesn't really do anything for me personally. I feel the same way about the CCA, BASS and a host of other organizations. Instead, send that 25 dollars to St Jude's Children's Research. You won't get anything in return except the satisfaction of money well spent.

http://www.stjude.org/waystohelp

I missed this until SnC tipped his glass to you.

I agree, in fact, two of the charities I give to are St. Judes, and Doernbecher's Children's Hospital.

[TSA]

Another blanket dismissal. Australia was a frontiersman country that was a post colonial UK state. Just like us. They had a frontier just like us. They fought aborigines just like us and that causeed very similar opinions towards minorities. Australians are notorious as being as racist as you 3. They, before the rebuys, had a very large number of guns. Both were mainly populated by debtors ie the indentured farmers and given the opportunity to pay off debts. The difference was between religious puritanical types that were sent here and more violent types sent to Australia.

All of your GOP WASP types that are anti-gun control come from a UK cultural background. Again we were a British colony. The principles that shaped the structure of government were heavily influenced by UK and French philosphers like Locke and Colbert. Adam Smith, a scot, is a central figure in our and their economic culture. Both banking systems are similar with central banks. Our fashion is heavily influenced by them and vice versa. The Cons ution was inspired by the magna carta. Our structure of central government is the same with bicameral legislatures and a bureaucrat in chief. We share the same language for s sake.

There are no better similes to US culture than the UK and Australia. Again, nothing will convince you because you are ideologues. Ignorant ones at that.

Answer my other question now dolt. Prove me wrong please. Show me that more guns=more crimes. You can't can you?

[TSA]

Do they have anything in their cons ution that reads like our 2nd amendment? "Shall not be infringed"

Nice job dodging the question again by the way. It's clear to everyone here you can't back up your claim. Good night.

[Wild Cobra]

Answer my other question now dolt. Prove me wrong please. Show me that more guns=more crimes. You can't can you?

He can't and he knows it. To do so, he must first prove that two different cultures respond the same to the same changes.

[TSA]

He can't and he knows it. To do so, he must first prove that two different cultures respond the same to the same changes.

In America, gun ownership has skyrocketed over the last ten years, yet gun crimes have gone down. He believes otherwise yet can't come up with any proof. This has nothing to do with his gun ban theories in other countries.

[Wild Cobra]

In America, gun ownership has skyrocketed over the last ten years, yet gun crimes have gone down. He believes otherwise yet can't come up with any proof. This has nothing to do with his gun ban theories in other countries.

But it's a part of the argument he holds on to still.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Do they have anything in their cons ution that reads like our 2nd amendment? "Shall not be infringed"

Nice job dodging the question again by the way. It's clear to everyone here you can't back up your claim. Good night.

It was not a question of Cons utional law. The question was about a study from a 'different culture' could be compared to ours. I just explained how our origins, religious affiliations, linguistics, government and economy were similar to ours. Legally they can certain types of weapons. That is case law as is that they cannot confiscate your guns. It is what it is.

Pointing out a single difference does not mitigate that they are very very like us as are their ins utions values and whatnot. Saying that you cannot compare studies on the basis of culture when its those tow countries of all the countries of the worls is asinine. As I have been saying you are just looking after blanket dismissals.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

In America, gun ownership has skyrocketed over the last ten years, yet gun crimes have gone down. He believes otherwise yet can't come up with any proof. This has nothing to do with his gun ban theories in other countries.

I already showed you a study where they looked at places where there were more guns and there was no less crime. Your generalized stats aren't more compelling thatn a scientific statistical study with controls.

Show me proof of your causation though. You keep asking me to show proof of causation. You do it or are you a hypocrite?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Answer my other question now dolt. Prove me wrong please. Show me that more guns=more crimes. You can't can you?

The questions you asked me repeatedly whether or not there were more guns and if crime had been going down. I posted the Yale article stating that more guns did not equal less crime. Now it has morphed into this. The entire argument started from CC talking about good guys having guns and you babbling about deterrence.

I said I was trying to be nice. I am not being civil anymore. I don't see the point.

I am just going to repeat myself as do you.

[Wild Cobra]

What about Washington DC...