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Any idea how long he will be out, what's the usual on an injury like that?
NDC called up in 5...4...
edit: more minutes for NDC
Any idea how long he will be out, what's the usual on an injury like that?
Manu health - aka Groundhog Day.
1-4 weeks, depending on severity
Just one injury after another. I know he looks like he has game left (and he does when he's healthy) but how can you manage this guys minutes any more than you already do? There is nothing left to do you just can't count on him to stay healthy over the long haul any more.
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closer to 4 of course although it was not looking that bad
that's why you need to stop relying on him so much as one of the Big 3 and allow him to become more of a bench role player. I know he has said he wants to continue to play after this season but if he continues to get these nagging injuries it would probably be best for him to retire. There's a reason that he's been really breaking down this year.
At least it's nothing chronic... that's important to the Spurs looking to renew him at the end of the season...
The issue is he does just enough to make you think "he's got plenty left" because his per minute numbers look great. But he can't play long minutes, can't stay healthy and can't sustain his production if you actually play him 36 minutes like you need for a championship contender.
If he is going to be re-signed, he needs to take a massive pay cut and I mean massive. If not, IMO, it's best for the Spurs to move on and sign someone who you can count on to play minutes. If the Spurs are pushing for a le, they need someone who can produce and take up more minutes without having to be babied (to no avail).
you advise him to retire. At this point he's impeding the progress of guys like Neal, Patty, De Colo and Green
Luckily, the Spurs have a 4x champion front office that understands Manu's value to the team inside and outside the court...
He's not doing anything to those guys. They all get plenty of minutes. Spurs need a legit 2nd/3rd option that can play 35 minutes consistently and produce well.
If they re-sign him for a decent contract it will be more because of his business impact more than his basketball abilities at this point. That's not a terrible thing and it's understandable, but hopefully he can change what has plagued him for a long time as he continues to age (injuries).
He just can't stay healthy and that is with being completely micro-managed and babied minutes wise. He's still ultra talented when healthy but it's so rare and Spurs need someone they can count on consistently.
let's see those guys #s a few games after Manu is out...
Good to see other posters recognize Manu has plenty game left... I'm sure the Spurs FO see it too...
Ultimately, Manu has just been unlucky.... a new injury in a different place... just when he was saying how healthy he was feeling... as seen with Jax, at that age injuries happen more often...
Luckily, I think there's enough time for him to get back in shape looking into the playoffs.
IMO, 2 years, 10M. That is fair value for a guy who can likely only play 20-23 minutes (even then you will have injuries) and for a guy that will likely only play in about 72 games (seemingly at best).
I hope Manu stays, I just hope the contract is reasonable. Manu can still play, but a contender needs to know you can count on your top 3 to play the vast majority of the minutes and games.
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I agree it's bad luck, but it is just him. He's injury prone in a major way and it's hurt the Spurs playoff runs before and it's not getting better. He's playing only 24 minutes a game. That's one half of basketball a night and he still can't stay healthy. Do you just play him only 20 minutes from here on out?
timvp what are your thoughts on this? I know you don't want him to retire (neither do I), but what about his ability to play consistently without getting hurt? Do you cut his minutes down to 20 per game only (he's at 24 now and can't stay healthy)? What about his contract and what his inability to stay healthy/log minutes does to the Spurs le hopes?
Nah... I actually never understood Pop limiting his minutes as much... most of his injuries have been mid-game, freak kind... broken hand, broken nose, this hamstring injury... they weren't typical injuries because he was 'tired' (ie: sprained ankles).
He always played 30+ mins for Argentina and only had one injury which was really a re-aggravation of a previous injury that required surgery (which he had).
He's old tough, there's no dodging that. He's more prone to these dings, and it takes longer for him to get back in shape.
Manu stopped taking Spurs to the next level long ago.
Not to mention he hasn't been 100% throughout a playoff run in half a decade. If anyone believes he will be 100% come this playoffs and throughout, I got some land to sell you in Fukushima, Japan.
Retire already and let the young guys progress
Please help ST Spurfan to have a realistic view of this season.
I do think if Manu continues to get little nagging injuries that he'll retire at the end of the season. Do you think he likes being injury prone and everytime he turns around he's injured again and has to work hard at getting his game back just to get injured again? I think it'll come down to how he feels at the end of the season.
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