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[FuzzyLumpkins]

Hey Fuzzy glad you're back after saying you weren't going to waste any more time with us. Here's a nice article for you to read, figured you enjoy it since its done by a psychiatrist and all.


Raging Against Self Defense:
A Psychiatrist Examines The Anti-Gun Mentality


http://www.vcdl.org/new/raging.htm

Have fun and let me know what you think. Boutons, would love to hear your take too as you've now been officially labeled.

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[FuzzyLumpkins]

The Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL) was founded in October 1994 as the Northern Virginia Citizens Defense League (NVCDL). The group experienced enormous growth in membership statewide and was incorporated as VCDL in May of 1998.

VCDL is a non-profit, non-partisan, grassroots organization dedicated to advancing the fundamental human right of all Virginians to keep and bear arms as guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the United States Cons ution and Article I Section 13 of the Cons ution of the Commonwealth of Virginia.

No bias here. You are the product of someone that only listens to what you want to hear. Slightly better than the white power from the other day. BTW I am back because I hate racism and feel it is important to speak out against it. Brad just made me disgusted at that time.

[TSA]

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Yeah you're right. That's weird. Just read it today and tried the link again with no luck. Eh....if I find it again and can link it ill repost, thought you'd find it interesting.

[TSA]

No bias here. You are the product of someone that only listens to what you want to hear. Slightly better than the white power from the other day. BTW I am back because I hate racism and feel it is important to speak out against it. Brad just made me disgusted at that time.

I hate racism too and you'll never see me partake in any of that here. Being an independent I listen to both sides, I just look at facts and know when I am right. Helps me sleep at night.

[Wild Cobra]

Here's the article; link: Raging Against Self Defense: A psychiatrist Examines The Anti-Gun Mentality

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Here's the article; link: Raging Against Self Defense: A psychiatrist Examines The Anti-Gun Mentality

So its a defense mechanism of projection because of an email she got.

It's denial because of an assumption that his side is right and they are wrong. She also feels no compunction about speaking for gun control supporters as some sort of monolithic group despite a lack of a single clinical example. So far we have no clinical examples whatsoever. This is the justification:

Anti–gun people who refuse to accept the reality of the proven and very serious dangers of civilian disarmament are using denial to protect themselves from the anxiety of feeling helpless and vulnerable.

ie I feel vulnerable so should you. This part really jives with a later part where she claims that all gun control people see themselves as victims.

Gun control supporters are simply being contrary. She doesn't disparage pacifists but instead:

In the case of anti–gun people, reaction formation keeps any knowledge of their hatred for their fellow humans out of consciousness, while allowing them to feel superior to "violent gun owners"

People support gun control because they hate other people apparently.

Most gun control people she has met are angry. Still no clinical experience; just people she knows. This is getting down right asinine.

People that think they are victims are raging. Somehow I don't get how that jives with gun control people deluding themselves into feeling safe.

Ahh yes here we go, it's scary how oftern this comes up from the pro gun crowd.

So why do anti–gun people have so much rage and why are they unable to deal with it in appropriate ways? Consider for a moment that the largest and most hysterical anti–gun groups include disproportionately large numbers of women, African–Americans and Jews. And virtually all of the organizations that claim to speak for these "oppressed people" are stridently anti–gun. Not coincidentally, among Jews, Blacks and women there are many "professional victims" who have little sense of iden y outside of their victimhood.

It's a race thing apparently. Black people feel like victims so they are mad and anti-gun. This is stupid. Still no clinical or statistical basis for any of this. She pulls a WC and assumes it's true.

© 2000, Sarah Thompson.

Dr. Thompson is Executive Director of Utah Gun Owners Alliance,www.utgoa.org and also writes The Righter, www.therighter.com, a monthly column on individual rights.

Those links do not exist.

[Wild Cobra]

Those links do not exist.

So?

The article is Feb '12. It's not like it's a recent article. Things change.

[boutons_deux]

Here's the article; link: Raging Against Self Defense: A psychiatrist Examines The Anti-Gun Mentality

Complete bull , pseudo=intellectual bull .

nobody is talking about confiscating guns, nor preventing the sale or ownership of guns, so the entire article is nothing but inflaming the bubbas with a straw men (confiscation, denial of ownership, etc) takedown.

[Wild Cobra]

Complete bull , pseudo=intellectual bull .

nobody is talking about confiscating guns, nor preventing the sale or ownership of guns, so the entire article is nothing but inflaming the bubbas with a straw men (confiscation, denial of ownership, etc) takedown.

So?

Keep in mind, I just found the broken link. I didn't even read very much of it. I'm not interested in psychobabble.

[DMC]

Scared. You are such a putz.

Thank you for admitting that there are good parallels between the two countries.

Both the aborigines and blacks are disproportionally poor. There are also those such as yourself that presume they are inclined to criminal activity. There are many possible causes and I still see no legitimate link genetically ie they are inherently deviant. You even admit that yet you still post unrelated studies trying to claim a genetic inclination.

That is not a secondary issue. It was the first cause you brought up in this discussion.

When you attribute negative traits on the basis of race that is racism. You are a racist and it doesn't scare people, they just do not like bigotry. Some people value equal protection and egalitarian spirit. You don't.

You see the disparity between the population densities of the two nations. You see that Australia is 99% white. You see the incarceration rate of the Aborigine in Australia and the Black in the US, all this yet you still somehow think I am focusing on color of skin. I've noted socioeconomic factors as the cause. This completely s on Australia as being like the US. I contend that, if Australia had the population density that the US had of poor minorities, their crime rate would match or exceed ours. Our white crime rate is about like theirs.

Thanks for admitting there is a racial disparity when it comes to crime and that the US and Australia are affected in a similar manner even though their Aborigines were not captives at one point. Our Latinos were not captives either. What's their Australian equivalent?

lol pretending to have the upper hand after being beaten. Typical Fuzzy Logic.

[Wild Cobra]

You see the disparity between the population densities of the two nations. You see that Australia is 99% white. You see the incarceration rate of the Aborigine in Australia and the Black in the US, all this yet you still somehow think I am focusing on color of skin. I've noted socioeconomic factors as the cause. This completely s on Australia as being like the US. I contend that, if Australia had the population density that the US had of poor minorities, their crime rate would match or exceed ours. Our white crime rate is about like theirs.

Thanks for admitting there is a racial disparity when it comes to crime and that the US and Australia are affected in a similar manner even though their Aborigines were not captives at one point. Our Latinos were not captives either. What's their Australian equivalent?

lol pretending to have the upper hand after being beaten. Typical Fuzzy Logic.

Fuzzy will admit not such valid logic. It isn't fuzzy logic...

[DMC]

So much for more guns = more crime. And with that, I am done with that argument (unlike Fuzzy who's claimed to be done a dozen times only to return to it because he's such a caring person).

[CosmicCowboy]

I used to be a member but gave it up because of the constant mail/phone harassment to give them more money. suckers would question your patriotism if you said no. It took two years for them to finally quit calling.

[TSA]

So much for more guns = more crime. And with that, I am done with that argument.

Don't worry, I'll keep going until he answers the simple ing question.

[Blake]

Don't worry, I'll keep going until he answers the simple ing question.

If it were proven that more guns = more crime, would it change your stance at all?

[rascal]

So much for::: more guns = more gun crime.

Fixed

[George Gervin's Afro]

you're a fiesty angry little r arent ya boy?

lol...irony..

[mavs>spurs]

Bean3r

[George Gervin's Afro]

Bean3r

gangsta thug

[boutons_deux]

more guns has been proven to produce more gun crime, even in super-patriot, home-defense, "law abiding" homes. In fact homicides and suicides by gun in gun homes far exceeds HOME INVASION homicides.

you dumbuck gun-sucking fetishists are as ignorant as ever.

[mavs>spurs]

Typical negro, bowing to liberal authority like a good little slave

[TSA]

If it were proven that more guns = more crime, would it change your stance at all?

What do you think my stance is?

[boutons_deux]

Typical negro, bowing to liberal authority like a good little slave

figgered you wouldn't make substantive counter, because your fantasies lack all substance.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Typical negro, bowing to liberal authority like a good little slave

are you a crip or a blood?

[Blake]

What do you think my stance is?

Not sure. What's your stance and would it change if more guns = more crime?