Oz, dropping bombs as per usual.This thread is a storm over nothing.
The Spurs often build good records by feasting on poor and average teams early while losing to good ones. We've seen this happen time and again over the past decade. And then sometime in January someone notices that we have a poor early record against good teams and panics. And then they start a thread about it. But actually, WHO ING CARES?
Yes, it would be nice to be dominant and beat everyone, good and bad, over the entire season, but that's simply not reality. The reality is SPAM - Pop tries to arrange things so that his team is getting nasty and beating good opponents in March and April, and then rolls into the playoffs on a high. Whether or not the Spurs beat good teams early means no more than 1 game in the W/L column.
The NBA season is all about peaking at the right time. Last year Pop was a master conductor, orchestrated the rhythm of the season perfectly, and we still lost in the WCFs to that ridiculous shooting by OKC... which just goes to show that you can plan everything perfectly and still come out a loser in the NBA, and that a few losses to good teams in Nov-Dec DOESN'T MEAN A THING.
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i'm not sure your reading comprehension skills are all that great but no one is "cliff jumping." well i am not, i can't speak for others. i'm concerned we're not beating the good teams in the regular season, however i'm not ready to throw away the season or break up the team so calm down.
Fine. Replace cliff jumping with knee-jerk reactionary threads in January. Same difference.
when is everyone allowed to be concerned or notice the trend? please tell the internet so we can all follow your lead.Fine. Replace cliff jumping with knee-jerk reactionary threads in January. Same difference.
At all times, obviously.
However, when there are mul udes of threads created EVERY night of EVERY loss, it starts to wear a little thin. You might think your thread is perceptive and original, but I assure you, it's not. If you can't handle the reaction you get from making kneejerk threads in January, you might want to browse the forum once or twice before making the 1500th panic button thread in Spurstalk history. And listing a stat that has been proven time and time again to be a worthless metric to indicate our post-season success with absolutely zero thought or analysis to accompany it is the epitome of a kneejerk cliffjumping bandwagoner.
Carry on.
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There are only seven teams with winning records against .500 opposition:
.727 - 16-6 - Clipppers
.667 - 12-6 - Thunder
.632 - 12-7 - Warriors
.609 - 14-9 - Grizzlies
.600 - 15-10 - Spurs
.545 - 12-10 - Heat
.524 - 11-10 - Nuggets
Spurs have played more games against .500 teams than any of the others so I expect some of the others(Thunder, Grizzlies, Warriors) to start picking up more losses in the coming weeks.
The last few season we haven't seen the Spurs peaking later in the year and they've actually gotten worse. 2011 is a spectacular example of that. Maybe this season is different and the defense will pick up later in the year because that's going to be the ceiling for how far the Spurs go. Pop seems to finally believe they can be better defensively. He's even starting Splitter.
huh?
20 game winning streak that starts with ten games left in the regular season and ends in the conference finals isn't peaking later in the season? They were 48-7 before OKC turned that series around.
48-7.
You should really stop posting nonsense. Sit the next few plays out.
Clipps are the team to beat in the West.
OKC is 2nd, may vault to 1st with another SternKobe type riggin.
Bookmarked.
No, the Thunder are. Durant is playing at a historically great level and can play unlimited minutes, plus they never have any serious injuries and they get the most beneficial officiating since the O'Neal Lakers.
The Clippers and Spurs are neck and neck for second, with the slight edge to the Clippers. Let's just hope ego get's in the way once they're fully healthy and/or Del Negro plays the political game and lacks the chutzpah to do what's best for the team.
I made a thread earlier in the season about whether the 1 seed was as important as initially thought (given the Lakers struggles). Turns out, it is, only the Clippers have replaced the Lakers. The Spurs must get the 1 seed to have any chance at getting to the Finals.
I don't agree with the idea you can get the one seed by gaming the regular season and avoid all the tough matchups and win a championship. I think you need to face tough opponents to win a championship. Look at last season. The first time they faced some adversity the lost four straight.
I didn't see any legit reasons given as to why.
More real truth?
Try to explain your post because the conclusion one reaches from your words is that you believe that:
1. The games the big three didn't play against Portland and Utah represented "all the tough matchups" from last season.
2. That if they had played those two games, games 33 and 55 in a 66 game season, with a full team that they would have been more likely to defeat OKC.
I look forward to your response.
If you understand the structure of the NBA playoffs, and you believe your own assessment quoted below, then the reasons are self-evident.
Is this a Yoda type statement?
Please explain the last two Spurs 1st seed finishes and playoff results.
No make that 3.
Make that 4.
Bulls were #1 seed twice recently too. How'd that pan out?
LeBron got the Cavs the #1 seed a couple times. Ditto.
I responded to your post. Sorry that you don't understand.
The history of various #1 seeds is interesting trivia, but irrelevant to the objection you raised to TD21's post. The reasoning behind his assertion is obvious and your objection is curious given your assessment of the Clips and Thunder.
Learn much here you can Mel_13 and TD21:
What seed did the Champ Spurs come from?
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...ight=%231+seed
Wisdom seek further here:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...ight=%231+seed
The teams that had overall HCA but failed to reach the Finals from 2000 on were:
2011 CHI (lost ECF)
2010 CLE (lost ECSF)
2009 CLE (lost ECF)
2007 DAL (lost WCFR)
2006 DET (lost ECF)
2005 PNX (lost WCF)
2004 IND (lost ECF)
2002 SAC (lost WCF)
2001 SA (lost WCF)
More interesting trivia. Still irrelevant to the current discussion.
Relevance complete, lacking is your wisdom. Continue to seek.
Still waiting for those reasons why we HAVE to be #1 seed in order to beat OKC or LAClipps.
Fabbs as Yoda. Actually, I like it. Much better than the usual schtick of forced, unfunny nicknames. Add an avatar and embrace the role. I look forward to more of your "wisdom".
Great. Maybe we could get a poster to 'chop a picture of Yoda with a Snickers bar. I think it's gonna be a while:
Fabbs as Yoda. Actually, I like it. Even better than your usual rock solid takes and hilarious, very fitting nicknames. Add an avatar and embrace the role. I look forward to more of your "wisdom".
If it makes you happy, I'll concede the semantic point to you. Yes, every team that qualifies for the NBA playoffs has a greater than 0% chance of reaching the NBA Finals. I didn't take TD21's words so literally. I read them in context and made the inferences that most people would.
Deflection of points, fabrication of Fabbs points scores zero.
Lose building of Straw Man.
TD21 points:Year 2007, go to. Dirk "is playing at a historically great level and can play unlimited minutes, plus they had no serious injuries." Seed #1 for Dallas, victory total equal 67. Impressive mmmmhmmmn. Have Laker-OKC rigged reffing? No that was 2006 vs Spurs. You and TD21 concede no way Spurs can win playoffs prior to 2007 post season?No, the Thunder are. Durant is playing at a historically great level and can play unlimited minutes, plus they never have any serious injuries and they get the most beneficial officiating since the O'Neal Lakers.
Outcome no Dallas exceed Round 1. Spur win, hoist trophy in sweep vs The LeBrons.
Popper Gregor 2008 - vs Negro Del Vinny = equal coaching matchup.The Clippers and Spurs are neck and neck for second, with the slight edge to the Clippers. Let's just hope ego get's in the way once they're fully healthy and/or Del Negro plays the political game and lacks the chutzpah to do what's best for the team.
Snickers Bar while waiting for reasons, uh hummn.I made a thread earlier in the season about whether the 1 seed was as important as initially thought (given the Lakers struggles). Turns out, it is, only the Clippers have replaced the Lakers. The Spurs must get the 1 seed to have any chance at getting to the Finals.
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