First and goal for Obama.....

[CosmicCowboy]

I said congress would never pass a ban and nobody knew what Obama would try to do by executive order. Obviously now, not much. Chump and I even agreed for nce that there was no way congress would pass a ban.

Your intellectual dishonesty was showing when you chose not to clip THOSE posts and removed the others out of context.

GFY

[Th'Pusher]

I'm guessing Obama is going to try and use medical information now to deny and take way guns. "It says here you take painkillers for your back problems, these painkillers have some bad side effects which means we can't trust you with a firearm, sorry, no gun for you. "

might as well continue on with the ridiculous predictions.

[ElNono]

I said congress would never pass a ban and nobody knew what Obama would try to do by executive order.

Maybe you needed to find out what can the executive actually do through such an order before going ballistic.

I know you love your guns and you're a good fella, but that was some crazy talk back in those threads, IMO.

[boutons_deux]

So all the libs here crying for assault rifle bans and mag capacity limitations knew nothing was going to happen all along? ok sure.

nothing could happen because Repugs would block any legislation, and Barry won't go CRAZY PISSED OFF N!GGA with Executive directives

[spursncowboys]

I though executive action was the CIA's term for an assassination....

[spursncowboys]

The fear-mongering and take-away-your-guns by executive order was just ignorants talking.

Funny thing is you heard it here quite a few days ago...

i think the fear mongering came from the left.

[spursncowboys]

Maybe you needed to find out what can the executive actually do through such an order before going ballistic.

I know you love your guns and you're a good fella, but that was some crazy talk back in those threads, IMO.

Every president that didn't die within months of being president has pushed the envelope on the executive's power. Obama is no different. He is a politician

[ElNono]

i think the fear mongering came from the left.

when it comes to Barry using executive orders to take away your guns? link?

Every president that didn't die within months of being president has pushed the envelope on the executive's power. Obama is no different. He is a politician

I think you're confusing executive power with executive order.

[Drachen]

I'm guessing Obama is going to try and use medical information now to deny and take way guns. "It says here you take painkillers for your back problems, these painkillers have some bad side effects which means we can't trust you with a firearm, sorry, no gun for you. "

But you were SO SURE that he would take your guns NOW! Are you 100% surerer now?

[TSA]

But you were SO SURE that he would take your guns NOW! Are you 100% surerer now?

I'm SURE you've got the wrong person. I thought he'd make gun and mag restrictions similar to what CA has, nice try though.

[Th'Pusher]

i think the fear mongering came from the left.

Lol. Your boy Glenn Beck was predicting a civil war. That's going to happen just like the Romney landslide he predicted happened. Seriously, as a consumer of that type of media, what do these guys have to say/predict before you go "well that is just bat crazy" instead of constantly making excuses for them?

[Th'Pusher]

I'm SURE you've got the wrong person. I thought he'd make gun and mag restrictions similar to what CA has, nice try though.

And you thought he would do that using executive order? What would possess you to think something so irrational?

[TSA]

And you thought he would do that using executive order? What would possess you to think something so irrational?

When did I say that? It's funny watching all the butthurt around here putting words in my mouth.

[CosmicCowboy]

And you thought he would do that using executive order? What would possess you to think something so irrational?

Who would have thought the executive branch would give assault rifles with high capacity magazines to Mexican drug cartels?

[Th'Pusher]

When did I say that? It's funny watching all the butthurt around here putting words in my mouth.

Well how did you expect him to do it? He made both those recommendations to congress, but anyone with half a brain knows they are likely not going to pass with the current construct of congress.

[Th'Pusher]

Who would have thought the executive branch would give assault rifles with high capacity magazines to Mexican drug cartels?

Not really apples to apples when you consider the spotlight placed on today's recommendations.

[CosmicCowboy]

Not really apples to apples when you consider the spotlight placed on today's recommendations.

Just making the point that I am continually surprised by the shockingly stupid things this administration does. The Attorney General is a political appointee who is clearly in Obama's pocket. It wouldn't have really surprised me (even though IMHO it's uncons utional) if he had attempted to exceed his executive order powers.

[baseline bum]

Obama doesn't really want to do anything. He's just using this push for legislation to paint House Republicans as extremists. Obviously it has 0% of passing the House (not that I think an assault weapon ban and 10 bullet magazines can pass the Senate either), and if he was serious about either proposal he would have executive ordered it like Clinton. I can't see the political fallout becoming less as more time passes after Sandy Hook if he wants to executive order the ban later, so this was the time to do it if he was going to.

[DMC]

I've told you folks what will happened, even right after Sandy Hook. Ah but the band plays on.

[spursncowboys]

Well how did you expect him to do it? He made both those recommendations to congress, but anyone with half a brain knows they are likely not going to pass with the current construct of congress.

They said the same thing about the sixteenth amendment

[ElNono]

Obama doesn't really want to do anything. He's just using this push for legislation to paint House Republicans as extremists. Obviously it has 0% of passing the House (not that I think an assault weapon ban and 10 bullet magazines can pass the Senate either), and if he was serious about either proposal he would have executive ordered it like Clinton. I can't see the political fallout becoming less as more time passes after Sandy Hook if he wants to executive order the ban later, so this was the time to do it if he was going to.

Clinton (just like Bush Sr did too) could only ban the import of certain weapons through executive order. I'm pretty sure a ban on actual sales, or even more, confiscation would need to come from new law.

[ElNono]

They said the same thing about the sixteenth amendment

What happened with the sixteenth amendment?

[Koolaid_Man]

Can someone tell me again why Repubs were concerned with Fast and Furious...one agent died and those ers went nuts...dozens of kids die and they seem "cool" with it

[spursncowboys]

OK chump you can go back to your own sn.

[spursncowboys]

Can someone tell me again why Repubs were concerned with Fast and Furious...one agent died and those ers went nuts...dozens of kids die and they seem "cool" with it

I don't know anyone who is cool with Sandy Hook