Washington (CNN) -- President Barack Obama on Wednesday proposed background checks on all gun sales and bans on military style assault weapons and high-capacity magazines as part of a package of steps to reduce gun violence in the wake of the Newtown school massacre last month.
With relatives of some of the 20 children killed in the Connecticut rampage looking on, Obama signed 23 executive actions -- which don't require congressional approval -- to strengthen existing gun laws and take related steps on mental health and school safety.
He also called on Congress to reinstate an assault weapons ban that expired in 2004, to restrict ammunition magazines to no more than 10 rounds, and to expand background checks to anyone buying a gun, whether at a store or in a private sale at an auction or convention.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/16/politi...html?hpt=hp_t2
In other news:
Now if I sell you my gun, we have to let them know about it. Wait, they don't know who has what gun, how the do they expect to be able to enforce the background check law? Oh I see, at gun shows. Well, someone has to allow private citizens with no FFL to perform a background check on another private citizen just by having his information.
More , nothing will change, lol libs.
so then, you have nothing to be worried about, "sweeping gun control" drama queen.
I'm still waiting to see what he thinks he can do.
The suspense is killing me!
He sure has been a lame president lately.
still waiting? it isn't a secret. if you care so much, why haven't you read up on it? the 23 executive orders have been posted multiply in this forum.
They aren't executive orders yet.
I think he is testing the waters to see what reactions he gets.
Deep down, he's just a liberal pussy.
well then, you have nothing to worry about either.
is he the next Hitler/Stalin, or just a liberal schlemiel? please pick a lane.
Did I say I was worried?
not worried about Obama? that'd be a first.
I'm not worried about what he might get accomplished concerning gun control. I simply don't see it in the cards. I could be wrong. I have been before.
An eminently reasonable point of view, being that new gun restrictions have basically zero chance of passing in the House. A lot of forum conservatives have been pissing their pants over this.
I think you would agree that I'm not a typical conservative.
There's no one quite like you, Wild Cobra. Not that I've met, anyway.
The NRA and Koch-Backed ALEC Have Fought Gun Buyback Programs Across Country
The National Rifle Association (NRA) is threatening legal action if the Tucson Police Department tries to destroy the guns it acquired through a voluntary gun buyback program -- thanks to legislation advanced by the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) and then passed in Arizona.
In the wake of the Sandy Hook, Connecticut massacre, cities around the country held voluntary gun buybacks: community-wide events where local law enforcement offers small incentives like gift cards or cash in exchange for citizens turning in their unwanted guns. Tucson officials offered $50 Safeway grocery store gift cards (funded by private donors) and collected 206 firearms. But the NRA wants those guns back in circulation.
"If they destroy [the guns], they will be in violation of state law," said Arizona gun lobbyist and national NRA Board member Todd Rathner.
Just a few months earlier, the corporations and legislators on the ALEC Public Safety and Elections Task Force had adopted a version of the "Firearms Destruction Prevention Act" (also known as the "Disposition of Firearms in State and Local Custody Act") as a "model," at the behest of the NRA. Both the ALEC/NRA model and the Arizona law have the same functional impact.
When the bill was introduced in the Arizona state Senate, twenty out of its twenty-six sponsors were known ALEC members. As the Center for Media and Democracy (publisher of PRWatch) has do ented, Arizona ranks among the top states in the country in terms of legislators receiving corporate-funded "scholarships" for trips to ALEC meetings, where they rub shoulders with special interest lobbyists at fancy resorts.
"Koch has had no role in any ALEC-sponsored legislation concerning gun laws," Koch Industries declared in a statement released after the Sandy Hook shooting.
But according to Bloomberg News, which reported on the August 2011 ALEC meeting, the ALEC task force that adopted the "Firearms Destruction Prevention Act" as a model bill included representatives of Koch Industries. And as the Center for Media and Democracy's Executive Director Lisa Graves has do ented, Koch Industries was a member of ALEC's Criminal Justice/Public Safety & Elections Task Force for many years (until it was disbanded), where Koch would have had a vote on approving all model bills, including the NRA's gun bills. The NRA's gun agenda also flourished during the many years that Koch representatives sat on ALEC's national corporate board, and even during the period when Koch Industries chaired ALEC's board.
http://truth-out.org/news/item/13959-the-nra-and-koch-backed-alec-have-fought-gun-buyback-programs-across-country
And yet HEAVY LOBBYING gang ALEC operates as non-registered lobbyist and tax free.
As Paul Harvey would say, What's the rest of the story?
Your blind ideology missed the first part, why do you think you would get any part?
NRA suing.
Check.
They claim destroying guns are against the law.
Check.
What is the rest of the story? How does the law read? For what purpose may it be illegal to destroy them?
Have the law handy by chance?
WC trying to find a way to give ALEC a pass. That's nice.
Is it in the law or not?
Just using CNN's le tbh.
Republicans Who Tout Mental Health As Response To Gun Violence Opposed Landmark Mental Health Law
SEN. JOHN BOOZMAN (R-AR): (voted no as a then-Representative): “Firearms are the tools, not the cause. If we are serious about reducing gun crimes, we need to get to the root cause which includes addressing mental health issues in our country. That is where we need to focus on finding a solution.” [1/16/2013]
REP. JOE BARTON (R-TX): “The gun control movement hurts honest citizens and businesses, not the criminals who care nothing for the law. I believe we can better reduce the misuse of firearms by strongly enforcing laws already on the books. We also need to improve our mental health screening system so troubled, violent individuals can be identified and treated more quickly.” [1/16/2013]
REP. MARSHA BLACKBURN (R-TN): “We need to have a serious conversation about mental health, psychiatric drugs, and the potential impact violent video games and movies have on our kids. I will closely review the President’s proposals, however I am concerned his approach is a pre-determined attempt to redefine our Cons ution. I am not going to allow this administration to trample on the Second Amendment or put new restrictions on the rights of law-abiding citizens to own firearms and ammunition.” [1/16/2013]
REP. HOWARD COBLE (R-NC): “Mental illness is an enormous factor in most of these tragedies, including the one at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Federal and state governments must address the issue of gun access by those who are mentally ill and find ways to curtail violence in our culture.” [1/16/2013]
REP. ANDER CRENSHAW (R-FL): “I think we can all agree: no one wants to see another needless, senseless death committed in this country with a firearm. Along the road to that goal, a complex and multi-layered debate over firearms, education, mental health, Second Amendment rights, and more is unfolding.” [1/16/2013]
REP. LOUIE GOHMERT (R-TX): “Mental health issues that have languished for decades may be a fertile ground for bipartisan efforts to make a true difference. Perhaps, a good first step toward curbing gun violence may well be rebuilding the sanc y and importance of the family and the home where there can be education, training and an honest conversation about guns, without treading on the Cons utional protections from criminals intent on invading the home.” [1/16/2013]
REP. TOM LATHAM (R-IA): “In upholding our Second Amendment rights, we must also be mindful not to diminish the tragedy of recent events and the work to find sensible ways to prevent such horrors from occurring in the future. No person of sound mind could commit mass gun violence, and it is important that we consider mental health and other root causes that contribute to these terrible crimes as we move forward with this debate.” [1/16/2013]
REP. TOM PRICE (R-GA): ?“All Americans want our communities to be safe places to live, learn, work and play. As we review how best to prevent mass shootings and the loss of innocent lives we should make a robust analysis of America’s mental health system a priority. A proper diagnosis and comprehensive treatment are critical to ensure we are identifying indicators of violent behavior that may lead to horrific crimes. To do otherwise would mean we continue to fail not only those afflicted with mental illness, but also their families, our communities and our nation.” [1/16/2013]
REP. MAC THORNBERRY (R-TX): “I believe a more responsible approach is to take significant steps to address mental illness and the root causes of such violence in our society.” [1/16/2013]
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013...ence-solution/
NRA has been deflecting all blame for the epidemic away from itself, gun owners, gun industry and onto mentally ill, so you know damn well they would support any talk of spending tax dollars on a useless, ineffective program like mental health.
All the headlines that refer to 'sweeping' changes or 'massive' changes are absurd to me.
I read through the 20 some-odd executive action items and came away unimpressed. It seemed to me that most of the action verbs in most of the items were ringing with "assist" or "write" or some other sort of "we are going to try to get these things done" by "additional interagency cooperation with existing law enforcement" sort of weak, bureaucratese language.
The only big items were the background checks going universal and the attempted ban on automatic weapons and 10+ ammo clips, which he indicated in no uncertain terms was in the hands of the legislature, not his.
And we all know that this congress is not going to pass any of those items.
All of the conservative media and the NRA have gone into histrionics over a real nothing, as far as I can tell.
I think the NRA looks absurd for the advert on TV that they put out, but then I tend to think that they look absurd most of the time. Not everything is an attack on the second amendment.
NRA President Rewrites History: ‘The NRA Has Been Very Supportive Of Doing Background Checks’
KEENE: The NRA has been one of the biggest supporters of the so-called NICS [National Instant Criminal Background Check] system which provides background checks. In the past, when they were talking about checks at gun shows, most guns sold at gun shows do involve a background check because they are sold by licensed dealers.
The NRA has deliberately and methodically opposed background checks, and pursues this tactic both before and after mass shootings. In April, the NRA endorsed a Colorado bill that repealed state-run background checks on firearms. When the group opposed a bill in Delaware that would require checks on sales at gun shows, it conspiratorially floated the “true intent of this legislation is to move towards an ultimate ban on all private sales.” Far from being open to background checks at gun shows, as Keene suggested, the NRA would raise alarm whenever states sought to end this loophole.
Still, the gun show loophole is not the whole story. Thanks to the NRA, at least 11 states automatically restore ex-felons’ access to guns once they served their term, and many states allow violent felons to pe ion for firearms.
Background checks have near-universal support. According to a new NYT/CBS poll, over 90 percent of the country — including Republicans and gun owners — agrees on this gun violence prevention measure.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...ground-checks/
Rand Paul To Challenge Obama's Gun Control Executive Actions
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) is proposing legislation to nullify President Obama's executive actions on gun policy, claiming that the president's actions are a breach of cons utional separation of powers between the executive and legislative branches.
During a Wednesday appearance on Fox News' "Hannity," the Republican senator outlined his plan to challenge Obama's anti-gun violence package.
"Our founding fathers were very concerned about us having separation of powers. They didn't want to let the president become a king." Paul said. "In this bill, we will nullify anything the president does that smacks of legislation."
Paul continued: "I'm afraid that President Obama may have this king complex sort of developing ... I think there's a history of this arrogance."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...=Daily%20Brief
Yet Another right wing Cons utional expert re-writing the Cons ution to sucker and inflame his KY bubbas.
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