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    NBC Admitted: No ‘Assault Rifle’ Used in Newtown Shooting
    KYLE BECKER JANUARY 15, 2013 5:10 PM



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    When the president surrounds himself with children while giving his announcement that reasonable gun control measures are necessary, bear in mind that those ‘assault rifles‘ the government is sure to be going after were not even used in the Newton, Connecticut elementary shooting. As NBC admits in the video above, four handguns were used to carry out that de able atrocity. This directly contradicts other reports.

    Pete Williams, who is NBC’s chief Justice correspondent, reported the following in the video posted above:



    This continues to be a very complex investigation and there is a lot of contradictory information out there, but we have some new information this morning (one month ago) from a couple of federal officials and state officials.

    They say now that there were actually four handguns inside the school, not just two as we were initially told. Four handguns and apparently only handguns that were taken into the school.

    We knew that Adam Lanza, the man said to be the gunman here, also had an ‘assault-style’ AR-15 -style rifle that he had had taken to the school, it was in the car he drove there, his mother’s car, but we have been told by several officials that he had left that in the car.

    The correspondent makes it clear over and over again that he confirmed this information with federal and state officials. Now, a lot of media reports contradict this one, but somebody’s lying. The report that an ‘AR-15-style’ assault rifle was in the trunk of murderer Adam Lanza’s car is up for dispute as well. If one examines footage from police breaking into Lanza’s car, one sees police clearing a round from a “long gun of some type” that does not appear to be ‘AR-15 style’ or ‘assault-style.’



    Whether or not the mainstream media are intentionally spreading disinformation about the Sandy Hook elementary tragedy, there is one thing for certain: not only are violent crime rates at a modern low and going down, but only 323 homicides were committed by rifles in 2011. That includes hunting rifles, assault rifles, military style rifles, semi-automatic rifles and whatever label one comes up with, regardless of magazine or clip capacity.

    In a nation of 311 million people, the odds of being killed by a rifle is about one homicide per million people, which is far less than the odds of being murdered by a blunt object. But we don’t hear the media arguing about regulating hammers and clubs. Again, when 99.7% of registered gun owners are law-abiding, gun control is not about guns, it’s about control.





    I'm not going to watch that video and stopped following the Sandy Hook tragedy about a week after it happened, but did they ever confirm what guns were used to do all of the shootings? I've heard rumors the AR15 wasn't even used, and it was just handguns. Is what I heard bull ?
    Yes, it's bull .

    The AR-15 was the main weapon. He left a shotgun in the car and used one of two handguns to off himself.

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    Surprised at the lack of comments. Is this old news or something? Have I been duped? Serious questions as I stopped following Sandy Hook.

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    Surprised at the lack of comments. Is this old news or something? Have I been duped? Serious questions as I stopped following Sandy Hook.
    Ok, I'll give you a pass if you stopped following it -- but that is right up there with the 9/11 media conspiracies.

    News reports that day were all over the place. , they thought Lanza's brother was the perp at first.

    Unless someone thinks the local police and coroner are in on it, this matter is settled.

    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...chool-shooting

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    Ok, I'll give you a pass if you stopped following it -- but that is right up there with the 9/11 media conspiracies.

    News reports that day were all over the place. , they thought Lanza's brother was the perp at first.

    Unless someone thinks the local police and coroner are in on it, this matter is settled.

    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...chool-shooting
    I seriously haven't followed it at all. So where does the NBC stuff come from? And in that second video it doesn't look at all like an AR that the cop is clearing. I'm just trying to figure it all out.

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    I seriously haven't followed it at all. So where does the NBC stuff come from?
    It comes from the spotty reporting of the first day. I'm more inclined to believe the police and medical examiner after they have collected the evidence and performed the autopsies, given the choice between the two.
    And in that second video it doesn't look at all like an AR that the cop is clearing.
    I don't know to what you are referring, but it really doesn't matter to me. Occam's razor and all that.

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    And in that second video it doesn't look at all like an AR that the cop is clearing.
    OK, you were talking about the second video from your link.

    It doesn't look like an AR because it's the shotgun Lanza left in the car. The AR was inside the school with Lanza when he offed himself.

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    OK, you were talking about the second video from your link.

    It doesn't look like an AR because it's the shotgun Lanza left in the car. The AR was inside the school with Lanza when he offed himself.
    The webpage you linked me to is from Dec 16th. My link is from January 15th. Are the quotes from NBC false? I'm not into nor do I believe in conspiracy theories, I just find it odd.

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    What is throwing me off in the article I posted is the (one month ago). Is that quote from one month ago or are they talking about one month ago from the quote?

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    The webpage you linked me to is from Dec 16th. My link is from January 15th. Are the quotes from NBC false? I'm not into nor do I believe in conspiracy theories, I just find it odd.
    The story you linked is from January 15th. The first video in the story is clearly marked "Dec. 15" and there is little doubt the second video is probably from the same day given what they said about Lanza's mother -- she is only presumed dead and they still think she worked at the school. They both definitely took place before the video of the police chief's statement.

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    Old news. It makes absolutely no difference what kind of guns that sick used.

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    Seriously, this guy calls himself an "associate editor"?

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    Thanks for clearing it up and not being a .

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    I wasn't?

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    TSA just being a in dumbass college dropout not understanding what really happened. Learn to in read before you start dumbass threads and post stupid questions.

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    TSA just being a in dumbass college dropout not understanding what really happened. Learn to in read before you start dumbass threads and post stupid questions.
    Holy dude your butthurt from me calling out your asking how to ask a girl out really stung I see. How about you wait to chime in on gun talk once you can legally purchase a handgun.

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    TSA just being a in dumbass college dropout not understanding what really happened. Learn to in read before you start dumbass threads and post stupid questions.
    Holy dude your butthurt from me calling out your asking how to ask a girl out really stung I see. How about you wait to chime in on gun talk once you can legally purchase a handgun.

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    ^ lol thinking anybody is watching that bull

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    Seeing the illuminati eye in the youtube screenshot is enough for me to lol mouse.

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    Hoax..didnt even happen...

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    wrong vid I meant to post this one.



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    How is it debunked?

    That link you posted is only another view on the video in fact one of them is just a hater looks at one of his quotes.



    Blaskiewicz added that such a diseased investigative process is almost always guaranteed to fail.

    "The only possible answer at the end of that process of investigation is some sort of omnipotent puppet master who controls everything. In this case, it's the government, but it's often Jews, the New World Order, the other political party, the Illuminati, Masons, or even inter-dimensional mind-controlling reptilian space aliens who impersonate political leaders."
    What does any of that have to do with finding the truth on what really happened? In fact one of the so called debunkers tried to back pedal.

    D.J. Grothe, president of the James Randi Educational Foundation, does note that truthers shouldn't be immediately dismissed as raving lunatics, however.

    "Political conspiracy theorists are completely wrong [in their conclusions], but they're not crazy," he told HuffPost. "The leading conspiracy theorists ... are right on many of their initial factual claims. Depending on what the theory is, they might even be correct in all of their claims. Where they are wrong is connecting the dots that aren't there."
    The video got 10 million views in 9 days by people who know this government lies to them daily.

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    How is it debunked?

    That link you posted is only another view on the video in fact one of them is just a hater looks at one of his quotes.



    Blaskiewicz added that such a diseased investigative process is almost always guaranteed to fail.

    "The only possible answer at the end of that process of investigation is some sort of omnipotent puppet master who controls everything. In this case, it's the government, but it's often Jews, the New World Order, the other political party, the Illuminati, Masons, or even inter-dimensional mind-controlling reptilian space aliens who impersonate political leaders."
    What does any of that have to do with finding the truth on what really happened? In fact one of the so called debunkers tried to back pedal.

    D.J. Grothe, president of the James Randi Educational Foundation, does note that truthers shouldn't be immediately dismissed as raving lunatics, however.

    "Political conspiracy theorists are completely wrong [in their conclusions], but they're not crazy," he told HuffPost. "The leading conspiracy theorists ... are right on many of their initial factual claims. Depending on what the theory is, they might even be correct in all of their claims. Where they are wrong is connecting the dots that aren't there."
    The video got 10 million views in 9 days by people who know this government lies to them daily.

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