Petroski: Want to engineer real change? Then don't ask a scientist

[MannyIsGod]

Post got redshifted in the expansion of the thread

Its actually the forum thats expanding.

[mouse]

All this advance Science is overwhelming and remarkable.....................meanwhile we still have the flu virus.

[baseline bum]

Its actually the forum thats expanding.

You're right. This thread is comoving.

[Winehole23]

Perfect retort. Pretty much what OP was.

actually, you got it exactly backwards. OP said engineers rule, and scientists suck.

[MannyIsGod]

actually, you got it exactly backwards. OP said engineers rule, and scientists suck.

Pretty sure thats what I meant but thanks.

[Winehole23]

well then, I got it backwards. my bad.

[RandomGuy]

He just doesn't understand that engineering is a discipline of science.

The point is that you don't have to over analyze everything. You don't have to understand everything at root levels.

Saving grace? I would say it shows our education is sub-standard.

Higher education is not a faucet that can be turned on and off at need. If one suddenly needs something it takes about 4-10 years to respond to market conditions.

Understanding things at root levels is a very important thing, because quite a bit of science is counter-intuitive. Without a proper framework of understanding, you end up with all sorts of bad outcomes.

Our educational system isn't all that bad, but we do have to deal with a lot that other industrialized countries don't.

I think we do often fail to teach good critical thinking skills. The large number of people who still think conservative ideologies work in the real world is proof enough of that.

[Winehole23]

hey, we got a D+ !

http://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/

[rjv]

i can tell you this much-you can get a bunch of theoretical physicists and applied physicists in a room together and they will most certainly not be on the same page about a myriad of topics

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Engineering is easy. It's those people who interpret abstract art, that's hard.

They're culturally richer than you'll ever be.

[DMC]

Wow DoK going waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back.