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lol bill russel
Possibly even Top 5. Who gets bumped out of the Top 5 or 10 list, 5-6 years from now?
1. Jordan
2. Magic
3. KAJ
4. Bill Russell
5. Larry Bird
IMO those are a lock. They don't necessarily have the best numbers when it comes to statistic but I fell like they brought a LOT to the game of basketball, they are proven winners and are all household names (With the exception of Russell perhaps because he's not in the spotlight so much). Overall, they're impact are irreplaceable. Newer generation will say Bird doesn't believe but I disagree. Without Bird, Magic and the Lakers story wouldve been a lot lsee interesting in the 80's.
The remaining 5 IMO are interchangeable.
6. Wilt
7. Shaq
8. Duncan
9. Kobe
10. Olajuwon
Lebron's a Top 12 player right now. Its only a matter of time before he moves up in the 30k points, 7.5k assists and 10k rebound club. All that with possibly 5 MVP's and 2-3 championship rings.
The way he's dominating right now and how his legacy is shaping up, he's really making the rest of the 3 in that list pale in comparison (Duncan, Olajuwon and Kobe)
Kobe has a chance to still cement his spot. If he wins another le and finals MVP along with his scoring accolades, he may very well be solid 8th or 9th spot in that list.
So who does Lebron replace in that Top 10 list when his career is all said and done?
lol bill russel
The NBA was Bill Russell's playground. He's much more iconic than Wilt tbh.
Magic for sure... he should not be in the top 10 anyway but if we give it a pass, he's still behind Russell, Wilt, Bird, MJ, KAJ, Robertson and that's by being really really generous.
You must be kidding.
MJ
Magic
Russel
Bird
KAJ
Wilt
Duncan
Kobe
Shaq
Hakeem
Going by this list. Hakeem will be the odd man out. Which I dont have a problem with tbh. He had 2 crazy years and then went out ans silently ended his career.
The NBA was a bunch of 6'5" honkies trying to guard Russell at the time and had like 8 teams total. Russell is a rich man's Ben Wallace.
Hakeem isn't the tenth best player of all time. First of all, he missed the playffs in his prime. Secondly, he didn't learn to pass until he was like 30. Before that he was basically a smarter Amare Stoudemire with better knees. Third of all, outside of his peak years that last 2-3 seasons, he wasn't THAT good.
LeBron > Hakeem, already.
Hakeem dominated the '86 Celtics frontcourt, one of the best of all time, as a second-year player. It isn't his fault Ralph Sampson crapped the bed in that series or that Boston simply had a better team. Nor is it his fault Sampson got hurt and 2-3 guys from that Houston team got blackballed in subsequent years.Hakeem isn't the tenth best player of all time. First of all, he missed the play
LeBron > Hakeem, already.
I have my doubts about Kobe being a top-ten all-time player, tbh...
Lebron
1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. Wilt
5. Bird
6. Russell
7. Shaq
8. Duncan
9. Hakeem
10. LeBron
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Kobe.
Lebron right now might be playing at a higher level than any player ever. MJ is probably the only player that has played at a level comparable to what Lebron has been able to do, in terms of his ability to affect the game in pretty much every aspect you can think of.
What's crazy is that Lebron still may get better. His jumper and post game both have been making small improvements in different ways every year.
Me too, tbh.
Statistically there are more than 10 players better than Kobe at their respective peaks. Longevity works in favor of Kobe (although 3 of his 5 rings were won as a second option and his individual numbers are inflated because of the fact of coming straight out of high school) but I care more about the level of play displayed at their best than the ability to sustain a good level over a longer period of time. 3 great years > 10 good years, imho.
It depends on how you look at things, if you care more about longevity Kobe > Hakeem. If you care more about peaks and importance on their respective teams success (who had to do more) Hakeem > Kobe
You don't know much about ball if you believe this
LeBron may be better already but the hate on Hakeem is blasphemousHakeem isn't the tenth best player of all time. First of all, he missed the play
LeBron > Hakeem, already.
Another atrocious take. Explain yourself.
How is this relevant?
I think history should not be kind to Kobe. Was a horrible team mate, missed the playoffs in his prime due to his ego kicking Shaq out of LA, and now is probably going to miss the playoffs in the biggest bust team of all time.
what is there to explain, Wilt, Russell, MJ i think should be obvious. Bird is very debatable but in my mind he was the better player (more points, more rebounds, better defender), Oscar Robertson had seasons with triple doubles (only one credited, but still). KAJ should also be obvious..
I actually feel the same way. It's weird but the Olajuwon love fest is crazy. He had 2 amazing seasons but there wasn't a lot going on for Olajuwon after those championship years. It's like the dude was just lucky MJ retired for a brief period of time.Hakeem isn't the tenth best player of all time. First of all, he missed the play
LeBron > Hakeem, already.
I'd have to take Kobe's longevity to be quite honest. Kobe never had a dominant Finals performance like Olajuwon but his overall playoff numbers are great. Kobe's a model for consistency, discipline and work ethic. It only helps his case considering he's one of the best scorer, a multiple MVP and a 5 time champion in the process.
His career mirrors Karl Malone except he has championsips.
Hakeem was much better then Amare, because he always played elite defense. His offensive game got improved over the years, until he reached a level that made him unstoppable.
Bird totally dominated the NBA during the time he won 3 consecutive MVP's and two 'ships + 1 finals. And he was top 2, top 3 player for the rest of his career. He's unquestionable top 10, imo.
Magic is top 10, how can anyone question that.
LeBron will end as the GOAT, imo. He's much more talented then MJ and can play elite defense, something that Magic couldn't.
Kobe has no business being discussed in top 10 tbh.
I know Kobe's not a very likeable figure but you guys need to drop this "He's not in the Top 10 list" statement. Every respectable journalist out there has him there. He has all the credentials not to be considered in this list. If you're going to kick him out, at least back it up with solid evidence.
No doubt. There are two TOP 10 all times player in NBA currently
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