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    Thing is Gay has a PER below the league average and is owned a lot more money.
    I didn't even realize that, but still Beasley is the heir apparent to Ron "MWP" Artest in terms of crazy.

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    Rudy Gay is a terrific player who hasn't reached his ceiling. Same can't be said for RJ when Spurs traded for him. Man what a sack of sh!t he was. I remember being so excited when the news came in. A monumental let down RJ was. A good guy and teammate and community guy, but just SUCKED. I can't imagine Rudy Gay ever disappointing that extent.

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    Rudy Gay is a terrific player who hasn't reached his ceiling. Same can't be said for RJ when Spurs traded for him. Man what a sack of sh!t he was. I remember being so excited when the news came in. A monumental let down RJ was. A good guy and teammate and community guy, but just SUCKED. I can't imagine Rudy Gay ever disappointing that extent.
    Rudy Gay is in his 7th year and is what he is. He hit his ceiling two years ago, and appears to not only have flatlined, but slid backwards.

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    Rudy Gay is in his 7th year and is what he is. He hit his ceiling two years ago, and appears to not only have flatlined, but slid backwards.

    Uh huh. Right.

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    Nice rejoinder. Look at his stats page. He's going backwards.

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    Grizz management is very stupid. But good move for H-Town.

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    Grizz management is very stupid. But good move for H-Town.
    I don't think Houston even has the pieces to get that trade done. They'd have to give up either Asik (whom Memphis shouldn't want) or Lin (whom I don't think anyone wants for that contract). Or they'd have to give up five players just to take Randolph's contract back.

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    I don't think Houston even has the pieces to get that trade done. They'd have to give up either Asik (whom Memphis shouldn't want) or Lin (whom I don't think anyone wants for that contract). Or they'd have to give up five players just to take Randolph's contract back.
    They're under the cap, they can arrange a deal easily and give Memphis the needed financial relief.

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    Nice rejoinder. Look at his stats page. He's going backwards.
    I gonna have to side with you, besides players usually don't improve to much after 7 seasons. He doesn't seem to be an exception to that logic. "Superbigtimes" comeback was a little weak.

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    If the Rockets are able to land Randolph, they might be more dangerous to the Spurs than the Grizz were with Z-Bo, tbh.

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    They're under the cap, they can arrange a deal easily and give Memphis the needed financial relief.
    I know Houston has cap space. Look at the numbers: There's nothing easy about arranging a deal. They can take back enough money, but they can't send out enough players without needing to find teams to take some players for nothing. Memphis can only take three players back (or just two more than they send out), and Houston can't get three players that make a combined $10 Million without trading Asik or Lin.

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    I know Houston has cap space. Look at the numbers: There's nothing easy about arranging a deal. They can take back enough money, but they can't send out enough players without needing to find teams to take some players for nothing. Memphis can only take three players back (or just two more than they send out), and Houston can't get three players that make a combined $10 Million without trading Asik or Lin.
    You're right, they would likely need a 3rd team to help out. In any case I don't think the Grizz are dealing Randloph, it's just smoke cause apparently there isn't much interest in Gay ( surprise surprise! ). They'd only deal Randloph at the trade deadline in case there's nothing else on the table to get them below the lux tax.

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    If the Rockets are able to land Randolph, they might be more dangerous to the Spurs than the Grizz were with Z-Bo, tbh.
    No. It's the one/two punch of ZBo AND Fat Gasol that gives us fits.

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    No. It's the one/two punch of ZBo AND Fat Gasol that gives us fits.
    Yeah it did give us fits. But the Rockets have played us pretty tight this year without an offensive post presence. I think ZBo would make Houston a pretty scary contender, tbh.

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    Damn that would scary. Its the current grizz team but with a Harden. Here's hoping they move Gay. Ferry should do a Josh Smith for Gay straight up trade. Atl gets a more dynamic 3, Grizz a 1/2 year rental on Smith + the cap space they want.

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    In a perfect karmic circle, I'd like to see Rudy Gay traded for Kobe. Jerry West still around? That would be sweet!

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    Damn that would scary. Its the current grizz team but with a Harden. Here's hoping they move Gay. Ferry should do a Josh Smith for Gay straight up trade. Atl gets a more dynamic 3, Grizz a 1/2 year rental on Smith + the cap space they want.
    No. HOU has no defensive stopper like Tony Allen, no two way multi-skilled center like Fat Gasol, or a PG as good as Conley. Houston with Harden and ZBo is a playoff team, nothing more.

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    No. HOU has no defensive stopper like Tony Allen, no two way multi-skilled center like Fat Gasol, or a PG as good as Conley. Houston with Harden and ZBo is a playoff team, nothing more.
    Osik is kind great defensively

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    No. HOU has no defensive stopper like Tony Allen, no two way multi-skilled center like Fat Gasol, or a PG as good as Conley. Houston with Harden and ZBo is a playoff team, nothing more.
    They could leap frog GSW & Denver if ZBo plays at a high level in the post season. Harden is a better 1st option than Curry, or Iggy.

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    Osik is kind great defensively
    Yeah, but he is possibly the WORST offensive center in the league.

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    Yeah, but he is possibly the WORST offensive center in the league.
    10.5 ppg in 29 minutes per game, 53.5% FG ( A little low) He is a good pick and roll player and cleans the offensive glass for easy points. You could do a lot worse [cough, Kendrick Perkins, Biedrins, Joell Anthony, Rashard Evans]

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    10.5 ppg in 29 minutes per game, 53.5% FG ( A little low) He is a good pick and roll player and cleans the offensive glass for easy points. You could do a lot worse [cough, Kendrick Perkins, Biedrins, Joell Anthony, Rashard Evans]
    He's passable on the pick and roll, but his hands aren't great. He's a garbage man. You don't have to defend him as much as put a body on him and keep him off the glass.

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    Yeah, but he is possibly the WORST offensive center in the league.
    That's exactly why Zach Randolph would help them out so much.

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