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    NDAA Would Have Sent MLK to Gitmo, Says Cornel West





    Firebrand black activist Dr. Cornel West gave a speech at the Tavis Smiley Presents Poverty In America series on Thursday that may surprise libertarians – in how much they agree with the "socialist radical."

    Decrying the erosion of civil liberties today, Dr. West loudly lamented the "crypto-fascist" state developing in America – contrasting the federal government to crack addicts, whom he said at least "are honest about their addiction. The White House is addicted to power!"

    "Love and justice is always weak ... [which is why] first you have to have a su ion of government. This is why I resonate with my conservative brothers!" West said.
    Continuing, he pointed out, "governments can be repressive! Vicious! Ugly! Violate your rights! Violate your liberties! Crush your people! Generate the propaganda! We need that sensibility too!"
    Dr. West says that he understands the growing collusion between corporate America and the federal government to be a form of creeping crypto-fascism, a security state where rights are routinely violated and ignored – not so dissimilar to the plight of the black community today. In particular, he described the National Defense Authorization Act as a possible tool of government oppression, pointing out that Martin Luther King Jr. was under federal surveillance from January 1956 until his death in April 1968.

    Most alarming for Dr. West was that provisions of the NDAA could have been used to lock away MLK without "due process or judicial process" – because he had known links to a man then commonly called a terrorist and now referred to as a heroic freedom fighter, Nelson Mandela.

    "We have black political prisons right now in America," Dr. West said.

    Dr. West called for government to instead be affirmative – to focus on resolving the plight of poor and working people. And he called for Americans to rise up and retake their country.
    "It's not just about justice. Any justice that's only justice will soon degenerate into something less than justice – we gotta talk about love! Martin was a an of love! If you're not talking about love and willingness to sacrifice, all this is just sounding brass and tinkling cymbal!"

    "You gotta hit the streets, you gotta go to jail, you gotta be willing to die! That's what the movement's about! And if you're not willing to do that, then keep your jobs and drink your tea!" Dr. West concluded.

    His arguments are not so far from those advanced by American libertarians – particularly those opposed to the NDAA and the increased surveillance powers it grants the federal government. In December 2011, Glenn Beck – now a full-fledged Ayn Rand-style libertarian – argued that the NDAA was a mechanism to indefinitely detain political undesirables.

    But Dr. West and libertarians are far more likely to disagree on other things – namely, the plight of black America and the best way to resolve deepening poverty, inequality, and the lack of opportunity that comes with it. While Dr. West urges government to be "affirmative," libertarians would rather eliminate the government entirely.

    However, it is a sign that Americans of all stripes and colors are growing increasingly su ious of the developing security state. But it seems unlikely that these disparate wings of opposition could ever unite to oppose it.

    http://www.policymic.com/articles/23...ys-cornel-west
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    Swing and a miss!

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    Could or would?

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    I'm just proud it's not a youtube.

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    Could or would?

    Ask the article writer. Did you miss the point. oh wait..."sheeep. youtubes!!!"


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    Swing and a miss!
    Yup you missed pretty badly in that other thread you ran away from lol

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    Ask the article writer. Did you miss the point. oh wait..."sheeep. youtubes!!!"

    The le says Would, the article says Could.

    You posted it, which is it?

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    Glenn Beck – now a full-fledged Ayn Rand-style libertarian


    libertarians would rather eliminate the government entirely.


    What a ful article, tbh...

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    I'm just proud it's not a youtube.
    More spin Anything new?

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    The le says Would, the article says Could.

    You posted it, which is it?
    I posted the le of the article.

    How much more spin can you attempt as a result of you having no real argument to the actual point made?

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    I posted the le of the article.

    How much more spin can you attempt as a result of you having no real argument to the actual point made?
    So is it Could, Would or none of the above?

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    More spin Anything new?
    I am being serious. How is that spin? I made no comment on the content and am saying that you are trying out new medium. If nothing else that would imply that this article is MORE credible.

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    What a ful article, tbh...

    I'm not a fan of Glenn Beck, he's an idiot.

    Now that we got that out of the way, and now that your spin has been deflected. How would NDAA treat MLK? Or are you a defender of NDAA?

    lol fake liberal shill

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    I am being serious. How is that spin? I made no comment on the content and am saying that you are trying out new medium. If nothing else that would imply that this article is MORE credible.
    You had to mention youtube, follower like the others.

    If you think it's credible, then comment on NDAA

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    So is it Could, Would or none of the above?
    It's "ElNono is too afraid to comment on NDAA" lol

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    There's obviously a major difference between 'could' and 'would'. Otherwise I wouldn't be asking.

    Could is debatable. Would not so much.

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    It's "ElNono is too afraid to comment on NDAA" lol
    I commented on the NDAA before, it's must've been lost among the youtubes and sheeeeeep posts, tbh

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    Look at all the morons deflecting the point of the story and personally attacking as a way to avoid the actual issue of NDAA.

    lol Delusional

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    Look at all the morons deflecting the point of the story and personally attacking as a way to avoid the actual issue of NDAA.

    lol Delusional
    So is it could or would? Or you don't know?

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    I commented on the NDAA before, it's must've been lost among the youtubes and sheeeeeep posts, tbh
    You comment on a lot of other stuff though that's the same, more than once.

    Why not the same treatment to Obamas war crimes, treason, murderous policies, and attacks on whistleblowers and civil liberties?


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    lol fake liberal shill
    I'm pretty sure most on here would agree I'm not a "liberal shill," tbh

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    Why would we want to avoid the issue of NDAA?

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    Never fear! I has the youtubes!

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    You comment on a lot of other stuff though that's the same, more than once.
    I've commented (and condemned) on the NDAA and programs like extraordinary rendition multiple times.

    I just don't get worked up or call sheeeeeep! people that disagree on it. After all, my opinion is no better than anyone elses (including yours).

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