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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    So we need to

    1. Re-sign Talib
    2. Let someone else overpay for Welker
    3. Get a WR with some size and playmaking ability in.
    4. For seemingly the umpteenth year in a row, improve the pass rush

    As far as a receiver goes, i have one idea. Green Bay needs a running back. Maybe work a trade where the main pieces being moved are Stevan Ridley for Jordy Nelson. Throw in draft picks and whatever else to get the cap figures to work. They get a young 1000 yd back, we're still set with Vereen/Bolden. Although if they plan to let Jennings go, they may be reluctant to move Nelson.

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    All that said, congrats on another AFC East le next season.

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    Resigning Talib is definitely priority #1 however he's injury prone as and Matt Patricia's ass tightens up like Mookie's at a TING family reunion with Talib on the sidelines. Kyle Arrington will get overpaid by some stupid team and quite frankly I'm fine with that. Patrick Chung is also a goner imo.

    I think at this point the rest of the NFL knows how ty Welker would be on another team and there won't be a team that overpays him. I want him gone no matter what, but fortunately he won't have any bargaining power.

    I'm now convinced that the only way New England is winning another superbowl is with an elite defense that can compensate for the 1-2 inevitable ty performances Brady has in the playoffs every year, which is only gonna happen if Belichick doesn't completely overhaul the secondary so it actually has some continuity. McCourty's switch to safety needs to be permanent and they need an upgrade over Gregory on the other side. Corner completely depends on resigning Talib and if Ras-I Dowling is any good.

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    Maybe work a trade where the main pieces being moved are Stevan Ridley for Jordy Nelson.
    that's a very gnsf trade idea

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    1. Resign the Muslim

    2. Get a psychotherapist for Tom Brady's narcissistic got ass. Perhaps consider electroshock therapy.

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    Forgot about Gregory. What's funny is he usually makes the right play on the ball, he's just too ing slow to get there. white DB's

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    Don't have your best receiver block extra points.......................ever

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    that's a very gnsf trade idea
    How?

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    They need someone better than Jordy Nelson. White receivers with mediocre physical abilities who run great routes only get you so far (evident by Nelson's and Welker's performance in the playoffs this year). There aren't any receivers in the draft who I think can immediately fill the void, I'd be inclined to suggest Greg Jennings except I don't want another short receiver. Either him or Dwayne Bowe.

    This 4-3 experiment on defense is a huge failure and needs to be scrapped. Running a 4-3 requires multiple players who are freaks and can generate pressure regardless of the scheme. Outside of a healthy Chandler Jones, no one on New England can generate pressure without a well designed scheme that confuses the defense. Switching back to a 3-4 and convincing Romeo Crennel to not retire is their only hope on that side of the ball but it's not happening.

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    It's the annual Pats fan pipe dream, but this year should they give real thought to Fitzgerald? Capwise it should be okay if Welker is out of the picture.

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    Brady for Fitzgerald tbh. Let the Ryan Mallett era begin imho.

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    It's the annual Pats fan pipe dream, but this year should they give real thought to Fitzgerald? Capwise it should be okay if Welker is out of the picture.
    As I said, if that game doesn't convince Belichick they need a real outside receiving threat who can catch passes that aren't perfectly thrown, nothing ever will, so yeah Fitz should be considered, however his contract is THAT ridiculous and the Cardinals would be asking for THAT much it's not worth it. The move they'll regret not making is not going after Vincent Jackson a year ago. He's one of the most underrated receivers in the league. Philbilly immediately went to without him and Freeman looked like he actually belonged in the NFL with Jackson as a weapon. As for this year, I'd rather they go after Bowe or Jennings then negotiate a multi-1st round pick package for Fitz.

    Even though I'd lose $20 if San Fran wins it, I kinda hope they do just for Moss. Even current day Randy Moss would be a huge upgrade over what New England has at receiver and he deserves one after the defense blowing it for him in 2007, only for Rodney Harrison to get on TV 3 years later and say, "Well it's a good trade cause we never won anything with Moss!" as if Moss was the one who let a 5th string receiver catch a ball with his helmet.

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    If you think Welker's a playoff choke artist, you haven't seen Vincent Jackson in the playoffs... he'd have been run out of Foxboro quicker than Ochocinco, tbh...

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    If you think Welker's a playoff choke artist, you haven't seen Vincent Jackson in the playoffs... he'd have been run out of Foxboro quicker than Ochocinco, tbh...
    Actually that's true I remember how awful he was for the Chargers against the Jets in 2009.

    I'd offer Greg Jennings a contract similar to what Jackson was offered a year ago since that's what he'll be looking for. That'll require some cap maneuvering but not too much if they let Arrington and Welker leave. I'd be OK with resigning Welker as a true #3 receiver who Brady won't need to rely on every 3rd down, but as long as he's here Brady's habit of staring him down and forcing the ball to him won't die.

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    Actually that's true I remember how awful he was for the Chargers against the Jets in 2009.
    VJax
    Kicking the challenge flag
    Overrated, overpaid (thankfully not by us)

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    VJax
    Kicking the challenge flag
    Overrated, overpaid (thankfully not by us)
    I don't remember him kicking the challenge flag, I just remember he did something really re ed that resulted in a Revis interception.

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    It sucks Ray Horton got hired by Cleveland so fast as their DC, I would have loved to replace Patricia with him.

    My ideal coaching structure is pretty much a white head coach who comes from a defensive background and has a defensive scheme for the coordinator to build around, an elite offensive coordinator (so a white one) who's allowed to do his job without any meddling, and a brotha as the defensive coordinator who can get the defense really pumped up and isn't afraid to call aggressive plays (with some exceptions, black defensive coordinators have much more guts with their play calling than white ones). This is why I want Romeo Crennel back since Horton is unavailable.

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    It sucks Ray Horton got hired by Cleveland so fast as their DC, I would have loved to replace Patricia with him.

    My ideal coaching structure is pretty much a white head coach who comes from a defensive background and has a defensive scheme for the coordinator to build around, an elite offensive coordinator (so a white one) who's allowed to do his job without any meddling, and a brotha as the defensive coordinator who can get the defense really pumped up and isn't afraid to call aggressive plays (with some exceptions, black defensive coordinators have much more guts with their play calling than white ones). This is why I want Romeo Crennel back since Horton is unavailable.
    Crennel would be ideal but it seems like Pepper Johnson is a guy who consistently does a great job and then never gets the DC job.

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    You could probably just put whatever I said last year. Pass rush, secondary etc etc. though with our track record picking secondary lately, maybe we should just trade the pick for a decent cornerback/safety/pass rusher.

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    Amazing.

    Any team that makes it to their conference le game as often as the Pats do don't need fixing because it ain't broke.

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    Amazing.

    Any team that makes it to their conference le game as often as the Pats do don't need fixing because it ain't broke.
    If you can't win the big one, then obviously something does need to be fixed.

    In the Pats case, their defense has been the single biggest reason they haven't won anything since their 3 in 4 years. As soon as the Ravens started airing it out yesterday, the Pats no longer were getting good field position, their possessions reduced, and it allowed the Ravens defense to get plenty of rest and play much more physical.

    Once the Ravens took the lead later in the game, the Pats went really pass happy, and the Ravens were focused heavily on allowing nothing deep, while giving up 5 yard gains consistently in both the run and short pass game. This is where they really felt the loss of Gronk, imo. They didn't have anyone exposing the short passing game, and Welker seemed to melt down and do very little after his bad drop.

    If they had gone back to some dink and dunk in the 4th, they probably could have made it a much better game. But they seemed to keep looking to attack downfield into heavy coverage, and I just couldn't understand it.

    OTOH, Baltimore executed extremely well in the second half. Boldin was tearing the secondary apart, and the Ravens defense got very physical and no one on the Pats really stepped up to help Brady out. Brady didn't have his best game, but his picks came late, and there was several really bad drops by his receivers, which in the end could have made a huge difference.

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    Also, does any single player own an entire team as much as Bernard Pollard owns the Pats?

    This is the 4th time he perhaps found a way to end the Patriots season with some sort of injury, lol.

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    Maybe you could hire Norv Turner to be head coach or offensive coordinator.

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    If you can't win the big one, then obviously something does need to be fixed.

    In the Pats case, their defense has been the single biggest reason they haven't won anything since their 3 in 4 years. As soon as the Ravens started airing it out yesterday, the Pats no longer were getting good field position, their possessions reduced, and it allowed the Ravens defense to get plenty of rest and play much more physical.

    Once the Ravens took the lead later in the game, the Pats went really pass happy, and the Ravens were focused heavily on allowing nothing deep, while giving up 5 yard gains consistently in both the run and short pass game. This is where they really felt the loss of Gronk, imo. They didn't have anyone exposing the short passing game, and Welker seemed to melt down and do very little after his bad drop.

    If they had gone back to some dink and dunk in the 4th, they probably could have made it a much better game. But they seemed to keep looking to attack downfield into heavy coverage, and I just couldn't understand it.

    OTOH, Baltimore executed extremely well in the second half. Boldin was tearing the secondary apart, and the Ravens defense got very physical and no one on the Pats really stepped up to help Brady out. Brady didn't have his best game, but his picks came late, and there was several really bad drops by his receivers, which in the end could have made a huge difference.
    Eh, Brady was terrible. Flat out terrible. His receivers had drops, but there were at least half a dozen times where Brady had an open guy, sometimes so wide open nobody was within 8 yards of the guy, and he threw it in the dirt or overthrew the guy badly. The drops didn't start coming till the second half. In the first half Flacco was awful and the Patriots had so many opportunities to jump on them. If Brady would have taken advantage of those opportunities in the 1st half, they would have been up 21-7 or 24-7, then it's a different ballgame in the second half. Brady sucked hard and that trickled down to everybody, including the defense.

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    Eh, Brady was terrible. Flat out terrible. His receivers had drops, but there were at least half a dozen times where Brady had an open guy, sometimes so wide open nobody was within 8 yards of the guy, and he threw it in the dirt or overthrew the guy badly. The drops didn't start coming till the second half. In the first half Flacco was awful and the Patriots had so many opportunities to jump on them. If Brady would have taken advantage of those opportunities in the 1st half, they would have been up 21-7 or 24-7, then it's a different ballgame in the second half. Brady sucked hard and that trickled down to everybody, including the defense.
    Point is, Brady has sucked before in playoff games, and the team still won, because their defense was able to hold it together.

    It's nearly impossible for a QB to play well in every game of the playoffs, especially when every team you play is very good. Usually there is at least one game every playoff run for championship teams where the defense carries the team to victory. If you are relying on your QB to put up +100 QB rating games every game of the playoffs, then your team is terribly flawed. You should not have to be that reliant on your QB.

    If their defense was more stout in the second half, then Brady and co wouldn't have to march 80+ yards to score TDs, which is incredibly hard to do against a very good defense like Baltimore, especially if you are having an off day as the QB. And again, not having Gronk definitely hurt in this one too. It may not have been able to get the win, but definitely would have been closer, and I'm sure Brady would have had a better day.

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