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    That's exactly why Zach Randolph would help them out so much.
    They have two very young, very inexpensive PFs already. They should get a better center.

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    What would Houston give up for Randolph?

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    Nice rejoinder. Look at his stats page. He's going backwards.
    No. I look at his game.

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    No. I look at his game.
    Do you watch all 82 Grizz games every year? Small samples yield poor conclusions.

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    They have two very young, very inexpensive PFs already. They should get a better center.
    They have a solid center already (he's in the top 10). The league is going away from centers, anyway. Why would they need 2 above average centers?

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    No. HOU has no defensive stopper like Tony Allen, no two way multi-skilled center like Fat Gasol, or a PG as good as Conley. Houston with Harden and ZBo is a playoff team, nothing more.
    You're right that there are differences on the perimeter defensively between the two teams, but I think you underrate Asik some in the interior -- at least in comparison the Marc Gasol. Asik played a large role on those great defensive-minded Bulls teams.

    What they lack in defense, the Rockets more than make up on offense should ZBo joins them. Houston would sure up their post production. The Grizz's biggest weakness is their offensive production comes from the wings, which is not the case with Harden and Parsons. With respect to Conley and Lin, they just have different PG styles.

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    Do you watch all 82 Grizz games every year? Small samples yield poor conclusions.
    No. Wow, profound words. Like your conclusions with Asik and the Rockets.
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    No. Wow, profound words. Like your conclusions with Asik and the Rockets.
    So, you're just puling this "Gay is continuing to improve" out of your ass, since you don't watch most of his games, because everything else says otherwise.

    Asik sucks on offense, BTW. Thinking otherwise is as unreal as thinking Gay hasn't already hit and bounced off his ceiling.

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    So, you're just puling this "Gay is continuing to improve" out of your ass, since you don't watch most of his games, because everything else says otherwise.

    Asik sucks on offense, BTW. Thinking otherwise is as unreal as thinking Gay hasn't already hit and bounced off his ceiling.
    No. How many of RG's games do you watch, or are you just looking at stats. He's loaded with talent and athleticism, and those things haven't diminished. I can't watch every game of his because Memphis is not my team and I have a life, but I do watch their games sometimes. You're just another Rudy Gay hater, that's fine.

    Asik avgs 10 ppg and averages a double double. Obviously a better defender than an offensive threat, who would dispute that. But to say he sucks is incorrect.

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    Marc J. Spears: Grizzlies trade Speights, Selby and pick to Cavs for Lauer, source said. Cavaliers also get a second round pick in trade. Twitter @SpearsNBAYahoo

    Puts the Grizz under cap. This probably takes Gay and Randolph off the block for now.

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    No. How many of RG's games do you watch, or are you just looking at stats. He's loaded with talent and athleticism, and those things haven't diminished. I can't watch every game of his because Memphis is not my team and I have a life, but I do watch their games sometimes. You're just another Rudy Gay hater, that's fine.

    Asik avgs 10 ppg and averages a double double. Obviously a better defender than an offensive threat, who would dispute that. But to say he sucks is incorrect.
    I don't hate him, but I also don't over-rate him either. Realistically, he should be making $10-$11M a year. He's vastly overpaid for someone who's team advanced their farthest EVER in the playoffs the year he was out. He's a beta male making alpha male money, and that will ALWAYS draw criticism from almost all quarters.

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    I don't hate him, but I also don't over-rate him either. Realistically, he should be making $10-$11M a year. He's vastly overpaid for someone who's team advanced their farthest EVER in the playoffs the year he was out. He's a beta male making alpha male money, and that will ALWAYS draw criticism from almost all quarters.
    Almost thought you were talking about Stephen Jackson for a minute there, haha, but Jax is an alpha male for sure. If RG is overpaid, that should bring criticism to who is overpaying him. He is more of an $11 mill player than jack. But they are both overpaid, making all star money. I don't think Rudy Gay is overrated. Because RG is athletic and can be exciting to watch, that does draw some praise bias though. I don't think he is playing as well as he is capable, especially on defensive end. Maybe I need to watch him more.

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    As someone who has watched quite a few Grizz games over the past few years (because they're on local TV here), Rudy Gay has absolutely topped out. He is what he is. You're re ed if you think he has this bank of untapped potential just waiting to be unleashed. His shot selection is horrific. During almost every game he oscillates between being extremely passive/going through the motions on offense, and being a black hole with the ball. Sure he'll go for 20+ points ever once in a while, but for every time he does that, he'll turn out a few 3-17, 5-17, 6-17, 7-17 performances. No matter the game, defensive matchup or flow of the offense, dude is getting his shots.

    Gay and ZBo have never really clicked, so one of them needs to go. I'm obviously no Grizz fan, but I do know people who are, and many of them wish Rudy Gay would have been gone years ago. There's a reason for that.

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    Word. What can I say I guess I'm biased. He's had a few good games against the Spurs.

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