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    Spurs fan in Las Vegas Drom John's Avatar
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    With all caveats associated with PER ...

    VA = PER *PT

    Paul
    Westbrook
    Parker
    Irving
    Curry
    Walker
    Holiday
    Williams
    Calderon
    Rondo

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    With all caveats associated with PER ...

    VA = PER *PT

    Paul
    Westbrook
    Parker
    Irving
    Curry
    Walker
    Holiday
    Williams
    Calderon
    Rondo
    The fact that TP's still third on that list despite him averaging slightly fewer minutes than Paul AND much fewer minutes than Westbrook says something.

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    per 36 minutes:
    Parker : 22/8, 52 FG% 40 3P%
    Westbrook: 23/8, 42 FG%, 33 3P%

    I take Parker numbers any day.
    I didn't even look at his numbers. I guess I meant he is a more explosive player and more marketable and people see him strutting and beating his chest after an inefficient game of shooting 9/30. People mistake all the garbage for a better player.

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    Cleveland isn't 'very poor'. Their record is bad, but they are a rebuilding team who everyone knew was gonna suck this season, and their two best players Kyrie and Andy have missed double-digit games. If anything, they should probably be worse. Keep in mind LBJ also missed the playoffs his first two years in Cleveland and his teams were atrocious, but he turned out to be a decent player.
    So now we're comparing Kyrie Irving to Lebron James? I know they both played for Cleveland, but beyond there, I don't get it.

    And Cleveland is 11-32...in the East. Thats not exactly good. Besides, a "rebuilding" team is just another way of saying, "I know we're not very good, but one day, in a couple years, we might be above .500". Lets just be honest. You're clearly a Cleveland appologist.
    Last edited by Darkwaters; 01-23-2013 at 12:21 PM.

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    Whew! Look at how many really great PGs are in the West. It will be a shame if Parker isn't selected as an All-star, but the compe ion is tough and some get a lot more buzz than he does.

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    Highly disagree on Rondo. He's been a huge disappointment this season after his great playoff run. Consider this: the Celtics are better when he's on the bench this season -- and they don't even have a backup point guard. Add in the fact that he's now a mediocre defender all of a sudden and there's no way to put him ahead of Westbrook or Parker.
    Celtics were 20-23 when Rondo got hurt. Without him, they are now 6-0

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    per 36 minutes:
    Parker : 22/8, 52 FG% 40 3P%
    Westbrook: 23/8, 42 FG%, 33 3P%

    I take Parker numbers any day.
    Parker doesn't take many 3's so I don't put that much stock in that stat but he is clearly more efficient that Westbrook.

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    Westbrick is not a leader.

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    As much as I can't stand Parker when he plays hero ball, no way is he that far down. Kyrie will be a top point in a couple of years but he's most definitely not a top five point guard now. Same with Westbrook, he doesn't even play like a point guard.

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    Celtics were 20-23 when Rondo got hurt. Without him, they are now 6-0
    My guess is that, they finally started taking their shots, instead of passing it too much.

    Can you find offensive and defensive number for Celtics with their 10+ apg PG ? I think they had difficulty to score more than 90 pts, and now they easilly go with 115.

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    Lol Rubio. Off the top of my head I would take Holiday, Lawson, Lillard and Vasquez over him. Parker is better than Williams without question. Haven't had a chance to see Irving.

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    Rubio is one of the worst shooters in the NBA. His FG% is so bad it's barely believable...

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