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    Yeah, Asik money seems about right. I'd go from 22/3 to 36/4.
    Good luck with that hope. He's the starting PF on one of the top 4 teams in the league. He's putting up a PER of 20.5, and did the same last year. He putting up a WP/48 of .223 (and put up .183 last year). This is his only shot at a big NBA pay day. I don't think he's not going to be cheap...

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    Splitter would defintley earn at least $8 million a year if he was in his early 20'. I think he will get a nice offer from a upcoming team that needs a big guy, but I don't think he is worth more then $8 million a year to the Spurs being 28 years old already, and fits more of a role to be the first big man off the bench for a contender. If he comes back for about 3 years/$12 million I think that will be fair unless he is solid in the playoffs and we have another late postseason run.
    Obviously, some one doesn't know what any half-way decent big man goes for these days.

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    What he eventually gets paid doesn't really matter. All that matters is his cap hold is only $7.5m so if we wanna pay him anything more than that we can wait til later in the summer and still go after free agents.

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    What he eventually gets paid doesn't really matter. All that matters is his cap hold is only $7.5m so if we wanna pay him anything more than that we can wait til later in the summer and still go after free agents.
    Not if he signs an offer sheet with another team. Then the Spurs have three days to decide whether or not to match.

    Unless some team offers him max or near-max money, Tiago will be back.

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    What he eventually gets paid doesn't really matter. All that matters is his cap hold is only $7.5m so if we wanna pay him anything more than that we can wait til later in the summer and still go after free agents.
    Sorry, not going to happen. Look at the cap analysis:

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post6317389

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    Not if he signs an offer sheet with another team. Then the Spurs have three days to decide whether or not to match.

    Unless some team offers him max or near-max money, Tiago will be back.
    I think Richie is hoping that Splitter would come to the Spurs with the deal first, and they can "match" it then without actually letting him sign the offer sheet. Then they can finish their free-agent with only his cap hold on the books business and officially ink him afterwards. So long as the Splitter wants to stay and trusts the front office's word, then that could well happen, if they don't just agree to a deal without him actually going to other teams.

    With that weird unofficial week before signings can actually begin, the Spurs have plenty of time to get their ducks in a row before they even have to worry about someone inking Splitter to an offer sheet.

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    Wait..what? Tony and Manu hang out together! Impossible! Their fans are sworn enemies.

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    Maybe Pop realized the best chance of keeping Splitter was starting him.

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    Does that mean he has eventually forgiven CIA for not playing him for 2 years?

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    4 years 36 mill 1st yr 8 mil with raises each year. 4th year team option.

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    I hope he stays. Parts of his game I'd like to see improved, but he's fun to watch & we're a better team when he's on the court. Best big man since the Admiral to play alongside TD?
    What a pity he's been so foolishly bottled up prior to this year.

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    You mean "wants to be Canadian". Joseph is a real Canadian though.
    he did get the canadian citizenship and I believed he wants to play with the canadian national team

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    Obviously, some one doesn't know what any half-way decent big man goes for these days.
    Obviously Splitter isn't elite at anything or even that young. Would of been nice if he came over when the big 3 were in their primes. Do you expect the Spurs to have anyone close to there 30's to be apart of the rebuild project in a couple of years?

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    Obviously Splitter isn't elite at anything or even that young. Would of been nice if he came over when the big 3 were in their primes. Do you expect the Spurs to have anyone close to there 30's to be apart of the rebuild project in a couple of years?
    Think you might want to read up on the stats there. And the age thing is what makes him a bit of a flight-risk if the Spurs don't fork over the cash to be honest. $8-$10 mill is about where the offers are going to be if he keeps this up. The Spurs should let Neal walk if that's what it takes to re-sign him.

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    Nobody eats with Blair. Any time you turn your head or go to the bathroom, food is missing off your plate whenever Blair's around.

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    Splitter's age shouldn't be a problem. It's perfectly reasonable to expect a big man to play at a high level until he's 32. That's as old as he'll be if he were to sign a maximum contract with another team in the off-season. The reason why his age may matter is because teams may not think he has much upside. But he doesn't need to show greater potential than he has alreadyl; he only needs to show consistency. He also needs to show greater durability, as he does have a bit of an injury history. I believe he's doing a good job at both of those aspects recently.

    I could see a 3/25 deal being a good one for Splitter, as it should leave him enough time to get another big deal before his production starts to go down hill. If he plays as well as he has been recently, the Spurs may even try to offer him a five-year contract.

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    Obviously Splitter isn't elite at anything or even that young. Would of been nice if he came over when the big 3 were in their primes. Do you expect the Spurs to have anyone close to there 30's to be apart of the rebuild project in a couple of years?
    PnR

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    who does tim duncan hang out with?


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    At first I thought Splitter wouldn't be too expensive to keep, but if he improves as much from now until the end of the year as he did from the first of this season up until this point, that may change. He may start out at 8 mil., but I think he will be closer to 10 per year the last couple years of a contract. If he does make said improvement whose to say he won't get it?

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    Nando (and Joseph + Baynes)?

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    lmfao @ sandwich crew

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    Asik's money seems correct, perhaps extended to 4th year. He's overall better than Asik right now, but a bit older and seems willing to give a slight hometown discount, so that money's quite fair IMHO.

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    I don't know if I'd say he's better than Asik, tbh..

    Asik is terrible from an offensive standpoint, but he's arguably the best defensive player in the NBA..he's also a better rebounder than Tiago, IIRC..

    Splitter will receive a similar contract though, especially since Asik has actually lived up to his contract, so far..elite pick&roll player, good rebounder, becoming better at finishing, good defensive player, mobile, good passer, intelligent player..those aren't skills you find in many bigs..

    He still can't create his own offense on a consistent basis, and he's still soft at times, so any team that signs him should have a good pick&roll guard on the roster, along with a PF that can create for himself..

    Splitter's value will ultimately depend on his playoff performance IMO..if he can continue improving and help the Spurs get the le(his performance is probably the x-factor IMO), I don't really give a what happens with him after this season, tbh..

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    Tiago is absolutely going to be offered at least $10M per year by some team out there. Spurs are going to have to s out to keep him around. He seems to be worth it though.

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    Think you might want to read up on the stats there. And the age thing is what makes him a bit of a flight-risk if the Spurs don't fork over the cash to be honest. $8-$10 mill is about where the offers are going to be if he keeps this up. The Spurs should let Neal walk if that's what it takes to re-sign him.
    Well he has pretty good stats when it comes to getting his points off pick n rolls and garbage buckets but besides that he is above average defensively compared guys like Asik last year who had some elite talent defensively, and got $8 million from a Rockets team that was desperate for a big man. I'll wait until the playoffs to see if he worth it, if he average close to a double double and play good defense against a qulity big man then he might be worth it short term on a solid contract. Leonard and possibly Green and maybe Joseph are probably the only players that will probably be on this team in two years when we start to become a lottery team.

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