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Isn't he the first European born - Finals MVP? He's had a great NBA career and deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.
You are probably correct.
Isn't he the first European born - Finals MVP? He's had a great NBA career and deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.
he should be thankful that scrub boobie gibson made him a fmvp...fkn
Tony, Tim, Manu, Pop, all headed EARLY to the HOF.
Yeah, for a long time it seemed like it could go either way, but after last year and this year, it feels like he's a lock for the HOF.
I'm sure the players give a , including Duncan (or D-Rob). Not sure about Pop, but I'm sure he'll get a bit emotional like all the others before him when he gets inducted.
First ballot HOT-er, he's lock to get in.
It's really amazing to see Parker is likely to join this extremely small, extremely elite club of players who had great success both on a personal and team level.
He's been a lock since 2007 and only enhanced his resume since, and I say that as a card-carrying CoM.
Maybe from a purely international player standpoint. For an everyday American born player, probably not. His numbers are good, not great. Not HOF imo. If he could play at or near this level for another 5 years, then most def. The NBA has probably the weirdest format for HOF selection. Sabonis? Really? I don't agree.
The "numbers" that really count are not his point and assist career averages, but his all-star selections (5), finals mvp (1), all-nba selections (2), and rings (3). He's a lock for the hall of fame. If he were born in the United States, he'd be a lock for the hall of fame.
And Parker hasn't done much internationally. Sabonis was great internationally and pretty old when he came to the nba.
TP doesn't have Manu's impressive international resume (given that he was drafted as a teenager) but being the best Frenchman in the league should be noteworthy.
If Parker's resume had 5 all-star games, 1 Finals MVP, 3 All-NBA selections, 2 All-Defense picks, but only 1 le would he be a lock?
Do I have to answer before I know who you're talking about?
I'm going to say no, not a lock. Two more les makes a difference.
But after trying to figure out who you were talking about, I'm a little less sure about Parker. Why isn't Jo Jo White in the HOF?
Do I have to answer before I know who you're talking about?
I'm going to say no, not a lock. Two more les makes a difference.
But after trying to figure out who you were talking about, I'm a little less sure about Parker. Why isn't Jo Jo White in the HOF?
I didn't fully understand/remember the hall of fame's selection process when I first responded to your post. I see where you're coming from after reading up a bit. I'm still thinking Parker is a sure thing because he'll be evaluated by the International Committee. I think he'd get in if he were evaluated by the North American Committee instead, but he would no longer be a "lock."
i dont think parker will get in...his nothing more then a role player, his at the level or horry,kerr,fisher....just role players who coat ride to rings have no business being honored.....
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Not if he only averaged 16 and 6 for his career.
Why is that even the question? Manu's not supposed to be in this thread anyway.
lol french wankers trying to down play ginos international success while boasting about the hero nba success...
Because the thread is boring otherwise. Of course Tony is a lock for the hall of fame, anyone who disagrees is trolling. I think a debate over who has had the better career, Tony v Manu is interesting. European/Int'l honours vs NBA honours.
Not sure why Jo Jo white isn't in the hall of fameDo I have to answer before I know who you're talking about?
I'm going to say no, not a lock. Two more les makes a difference.
But after trying to figure out who you were talking about, I'm a little less sure about Parker. Why isn't Jo Jo White in the HOF?
7 All Stars 2 les and 1 Finals MVP 2 2nd team all NBA
However his stats while good are not awe inspiring 17 ppg (only 44% FG) < 5 APG
My own take- although I don't think this what the voters feel- Is he played during a time when talent was very diluted. His peak years where in the pre merger period. There is indirect evidence to suggest that the ABA was equal if not superior to the NBA the last few years.
I remember watching him and thinking he was a good player but not great. Tony has flaws but teams do have to adjust there game plans for him (sometimes successfully, but do have to change)
Bottom line- I think there are clear cut HOF, but a lot of players on the edge. My own opinion is Tony should be in. However, I am extremely biased since I've been a life long Spurs fan. Should Jo Jo White or Chauncey Billups be in. Don't know. I would favor Chauncey over Jo Jo- just think he is/was a better player. However in many ways Whites objective data is better....
Having only seen White's numbers, it was hard to see how he wasn't in. You're explanation sounds pretty reasonable to me. Thanks for reply.
I think Billups makes it to the HOF. However, since the comparison is with Tony, if Billups had 2 more championships he'd be a lock for the Hall.
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