Combat arm open to women

[spursncowboys]

They should be allowed to try. The washout rate needs to be made available to the public however to relieve some of the liberal bull . When that happens, the standards will be lowered for them so they have the same pass/fail rate as men. Those making these rule changes do not fight and quite likely have no children in the military fighting in combat arms roles.

I agree for the most part. Anyone can pass basic for combat arms. Especially with the female pt standard. The problem is the unwritten rules of each unit. Like my old unit at 101st, you had to be able to ruck 20 miles with atleast 50 lbs of weight in your ruck in a certain amount of time. We needed to know who could do that because we went on alot of missions.

They also need to change the rules for women because we could be out on top of a mountain for three weeks with one bottle a water a day, which you need just to keep your piss from glowing.

[Th'Pusher]

Plus their heavy periods will attract bears and terrorists.

[O.J. Simpson]

Well, this isn't 1945. Doing victory laps around dead schoolchildren after they've been bombed/droned doesn't require male strength.

[DMC]

I agree for the most part. Anyone can pass basic for combat arms. Especially with the female pt standard. The problem is the unwritten rules of each unit. Like my old unit at 101st, you had to be able to ruck 20 miles with atleast 50 lbs of weight in your ruck in a certain amount of time. We needed to know who could do that because we went on alot of missions.

They also need to change the rules for women because we could be out on top of a mountain for three weeks with one bottle a water a day, which you need just to keep your piss from glowing.

So what part do you not agree with?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

LMAO ting in front of a is traumatizing but blowing up scores of children to smithereens is not

[phxspurfan]

we could be out on top of a mountain for three weeks with one bottle a water a day, which you need just to keep your piss from glowing.

I never understood that about the Military. PT is great but forced malnourishment is stupid and malnourished troops fight like crap.


But for the topic at hand, I think popular opinion will support it until the news reports of combat rapes start popping up.

[spursncowboys]

I never understood that about the Military. PT is great but forced malnourishment is stupid and malnourished troops fight like crap.


But for the topic at hand, I think popular opinion will support it until the news reports of combat rapes start popping up.

50 guys on top of a mountain trying to be covert. When you have 120 lbs in your ruck to add to your 60 lbs of gear- water takes up weight and space. Don't get me wrong, we keep about four days worth but then after four days you have to get speed balls. By the time you get speed balls (water and MRE's) you're dehydrated just from the al ude, weather and time. That's why when you are not on mission or able to drink water-drink as much as possible.

But yeah the army combat arms side destroys your body.

[spursncowboys]

So what part do you not agree with?

What part of what?

[spursncowboys]

DMC
I don't think it will be a pass/fail rate to men. I think they'll look at the percentage of women in combat arms and probably want to artificially create a number that makes them look good.
The thing is once a soldier gets to a unit-they are in that unit. It's pretty hard to get rid of a " bag" unless they do something to get them kicked out. So overall it will just diminish the overall abilities of the unit. If there is one guy in a real mission on deployment who cannot hack it, then everyone is ed! They can't just say "alright, call in the choppers. We have to call it".
On the other hand, having girls in PT will make guys push themselves more to not quit.

[DMC]

DMC
I don't think it will be a pass/fail rate to men. I think they'll look at the percentage of women in combat arms and probably want to artificially create a number that makes them look good.
The thing is once a soldier gets to a unit-they are in that unit. It's pretty hard to get rid of a " bag" unless they do something to get them kicked out. So overall it will just diminish the overall abilities of the unit. If there is one guy in a real mission on deployment who cannot hack it, then everyone is ed! They can't just say "alright, call in the choppers. We have to call it".
On the other hand, having girls in PT will make guys push themselves more to not quit.

That's what I said. They will have to lower the standards to create the numbers they are looking for. If the fail rate is too high for women, they will have to lower standards. It's not like every female in the military wants a combat role so they will have to take a larger percentage of those who apply and grant them access through bending the standards.

The problem with PT is that it's a regimented course, you cannot do more but you can do less. I was never challenged by it. There were some extra-curricular courses that did challenge me, but not PT.

[spursncowboys]

That's what I said. They will have to lower the standards to create the numbers they are looking for. If the fail rate is too high for women, they will have to lower standards. It's not like every female in the military wants a combat role so they will have to take a larger percentage of those who apply and grant them access through bending the standards.

The problem with PT is that it's a regimented course, you cannot do more but you can do less. I was never challenged by it. There were some extra-curricular courses that did challenge me, but not PT.

Yeah same here. I don't know when you were in but now they moved to PRT (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...41524429,d.aWc).

Complete waste of time. Even more so than before. Soldiers are mandated to go to the gym on their off time because of PRT.

[symple19]

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[The Reckoning]

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