Tony Parker: Lock For Hall of Fame Now?

[TampaDude]

TP will make the HOF. 3 les speaks loudly.

[Drachen]

Maybe from a purely international player standpoint. For an everyday American born player, probably not. His numbers are good, not great. Not HOF imo. If he could play at or near this level for another 5 years, then most def. The NBA has probably the weirdest format for HOF selection. Sabonis? Really? I don't agree.

It is the basketball HOF, not the NBA HOF.

[Brazil]

Because the thread is boring otherwise. Of course Tony is a lock for the hall of fame, anyone who disagrees is trolling. I think a debate over who has had the better career, Tony v Manu is interesting. European/Int'l honours vs NBA honours.

because Manu international successes it is not even a question, manu has a better career

[Mal]

Basketball-reference.com ranks Tony 13th among active players, with a 72.6% probability.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../hof_prob.html

How the f Paul is 90% ?

[chapnis]

Haha, BR has Manu as a 14% probability for HOF. Probably wouldn't read too much into it

And LOL at Chris Bosh 90% chance

[spurs10]

Yes, a lock. If I can't be there for all four, it would be sweet to make it to at least one of their inductions. Something's in life you just have to do!

[Bruno]

I wouldn't called Parker a lock but he is getting closer to it.

Regarding Ginobili, you can make a strong argument that he shouldn't be in it by himself but that the 2004 Argentina NT should be the one going to the HOF.

[Drachen]

Yes

[100%duncan]

lol french wankers trying to down play ginos international success while boasting about the hero nba success...

You're stupid.

[TDMVPDPOY]

hopefully he credits claxton, daniels, kerr and udrih for bailing out his ass...

[TMTTRIO]

Regarding Ginobili, you can make a strong argument that he shouldn't be in it by himself but that the 2004 Argentina NT should be the one going to the HOF.

If Manu makes the HOF which I think it will it will be more than just this. Of course he was the leader of his NT that brought several medals to them but he's accomplished so much more overseas. Plus he had several other Euroleague championships/MVPs. In fact they say he's one of only three to have a gold medal, Euroleague Championship, and an NBA championship.

[Bruno]

If Manu makes the HOF which I think it will it will be more than just this. Of course he was the leader of his NT that brought several medals to them but he's accomplished so much more overseas. Plus he had several other Euroleague championships/MVPs. In fact they say he's one of only three to have a gold medal, Euroleague Championship, and an NBA championship.

Well, if it was up to me, I would put Ginobili and the 2004 Argentina NT in the HOF.

Manu's Euro career is quite overrated. His Euroleague le isn't also a true one. He won it in a year where top Europeans teams were split into two compe ions.

[FromWayDowntown]

3 Rings & 6 All-Star Games
1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (6/19)- HOF
2. Larry Bird (3/12)- HOF
3. Kobe Bryant (5/15)
4. Bob Cousy (6/13)- HOF
5. Tim Duncan (4/14)
6. John Havlicek (8/13)- HOF
7. Tommy Heinsohn (8/6)- HOF
8. Magic Johnson (5/12)- HOF
9. Michael Jordan (6/14)- HOF
10. Slater Martin (5/7)- HOF
11. Kevin McHale (3/7)- HOF
12. Vern Mikkelsen (4/6)
13. Shaquille O'Neal (4/15)
14. Robert Parish (4/9)- HOF
15. Tony Parker (3/6)
16. Scottie Pippen (6/7) - HOF
17. Bill Russell (11/12) - HOF
18. Bill Sharman (4/8)- HOF
19. Dwayne Wade (3/10)
20. James Worthy (3/7)- HOF

[ElNono]

I think taking his team to the top of the Euro did it, tbh... this just increases his chances.

[DMC]

Probably, but he's always hovered around the top tier, never considered the best at his position at any time by anyone other than Spurs fans. He was on a good team in a great system, and he's got speed and scoring ability. He's taken the reins, sort of, of this team. I say "sort of" because he seems to treat the team like it's mostly a chore working with guys who are less than him on the court, and I don't see the team leadership in him that both David and Tim displayed. Might not affect his legacy overall, but he's not a franchise guy imo.

[Kidd K]

Assuming that he does get picked, Tony Parker will become one of only 20 players in history to have won 3 les and to have made 5 All-Star teams. Of the 20, the 16 who are eligible for the Hall of Fame are all enshrined:

Bill Russell (11 les/12 ASG)
Bill Sharman (4/8)
Bob Cousy (6/13)
Dennis Johnson (3/5)
James Worthy (3/7)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (6/19)
Kevin McHale (3/7)
Larry Bird (3/12)
Magic Johnson (5/12)
Michael Jordan (6/14)
Robert Parish (4/9)
Sam Jones (10/5)
Scottie Pippen (6/7)
Slater Martin (5/7)
Tom Heinsohn (8/6)
Vern Mikkelsen (4/6)

The 4 who are not yet eligible for the Hall of Fame are:

Kobe Bryant (5/15)
Shaquille O'Neal (4/15)
Tim Duncan (4/14 (assuming a selection this year))
Tony Parker (3/5 (assuming a selection this year))

(Dwyane Wade sits on the cusp of joining this group, needing one more le (which seems possible, if not likely). If and when he joins this group, he doesn't change the ultimate logic).

I don't think TP's membership in that club will be widely reported, but it certainly would seem to suggest that he's moving in on guaranteeing himself a spot in Springfield (if he hasn't done that already). There are plenty of guys who've won multiple les, but many of them weren't consistently all-star players; there are plenty of consistently all-star players who fail to win multiple les. But the select few who have won 3 les and consistently been selected as all-stars are all immortalized in the Hall of Fame.

Great post and great piece of information too.

All but TP are definitely HoFers. . .so TP pretty much should default into there the way reaching certain milestones in the much more difficult to get into baseball HOF locks you up for enshrinement. 3,000 hits, 500 jacks, etc. 3 les, 5 ASG selections, and Finals MVP, I don't see how TP doesn't get in.

Let's put it this way too. . .Joe Dumars was the 2nd best player on those bad boy Pistons teams. Compare and contrast his stats to TP's. TP crushes his stats. . .

TP also has unique stats on his side like his high FG% for a PG. Not to mention the excellent AST to TO ratio and the AST% to TOV% ratio, some very high statistical seasons, and the high finishing rank in MVP voting one year. Doesn't hurt to be a tremendous winner either.

[Sean Cagney]

Great post and great piece of information too.

All but TP are definitely HoFers. . .so TP pretty much should default into there the way reaching certain milestones in the much more difficult to get into baseball HOF locks you up for enshrinement. 3,000 hits, 500 jacks, etc. 3 les, 5 ASG selections, and Finals MVP, I don't see how TP doesn't get in.

Let's put it this way too. . .Joe Dumars was the 2nd best player on those bad boy Pistons teams. Compare and contrast his stats to TP's. TP crushes his stats. . .

TP also has unique stats on his side like his high FG% for a PG. Not to mention the excellent AST to TO ratio and the AST% to TOV% ratio, some very high statistical seasons, and the high finishing rank in MVP voting one year. Doesn't hurt to be a tremendous winner either.

I agree but do not call out the great Joe D! He was great on O and D and an all around player and one of my faves to ever play the game TP is a hall of famer we get the point though AND I FULLY agree with you.

[Baam]

edit didnt see the date of the post I quoted

[barakz21]

I think he's already a lock for HoF, but the only question is he can make it in his first year of eligibility. I think another le, 2-3 more all star selections, 1 or 2 more All-NBA selections should push him in. But regardless of whether he actually gets in or not, as a spurfan I'd already be proud of what TP has achieved thus far. I don't think I'm the only one who never thought his career would be what it is today.

[Kidd K]

I agree but do not call out the great Joe D! He was great on O and D and an all around player and one of my faves to ever play the game TP is a hall of famer we get the point though AND I FULLY agree with you.

Oh I know, I was just comparing stats and accomplishments. Tony has better stats and an extra ring, so imo it makes him a lock