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    Veteran noob cake's Avatar
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    Basketball Reference just added final averages for years 1950-2012.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...00_finals.html
    Shaq 38/16.7/2.3 on 61%
    Kobe 15.6/4.6/4.2 on 37%

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...01_finals.html
    Shaq 33/15.8/4.8 on 57%
    Kobe 24.6/7.8/5.8 on 41%

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...02_finals.html
    Shaq 36.3/12.3/3.8 on on 60%
    Kobe 26.8/5.8/5.3 on 51%

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...09_finals.html
    Gasol 18.3/9.2/2.2 on 60%
    Kobe 32.3/5.6/7.4 on 43%

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...10_finals.html
    Gasol 18.6/11.6/3.7 on 48%
    Kobe 28.6/8/3.9 on 40%

    Kobe has had one good non-chucking finals series and even that was on the coat-tails of Shaq. I give Kobe credit for 1 ship, 2 if I'm feeling generous.

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    But his best series was the year that the Kings got ed over by the refs in the WCF, so that isn't legitimate either, tbh.... Kirby

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    PELICANS!!! BRHornet45's Avatar
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    but...but...but ..... points per game!!!

    oh and ESPN told me to ignore the fact that he couldn't get out of the first round without Shaq and without Gasol! ignore it! he sells a lot of jerseys and shoes in China. ignore it! Americans are stupid and will buy into any hype agenda that we feed them!

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    Soft Like Twinkie Filling Juggity's Avatar
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    2010 might be the worst performance ever by a "superstar" on a finals-winning team tbh. Never breaking 50% in any game of the finals despite averaging 23+ FGA/game. Not to mention the worst closeout performance in modern history.

    10/22 - 45%
    8/20 - 40%
    10/29 - 34%
    10/22 - 45%
    13/27 - 48%
    9/19 - 47%
    6/24 - 25%

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    Is Kobe the most fortunate superstars in the NBA?

    In lights of recent findings, should Kobe be even considered one of the top 15 greatest NBA players of all times?

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    Everybody and their mom knows Kobe dominated the spurs and other western teams during the 3peat years, on LAL's road to the Finals. Then, a prime Shaq shined in the Finals playing against eastern conference no name bigs.

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    Everybody and their mom knows Kobe dominated the spurs and other western teams during the 3peat years, on LAL's road to the Finals. Then, a prime Shaq shined in the Finals playing against eastern conference no name bigs.
    Every contender had an elite wing defender, the Spurs were late to add Bowen in 2002. The Spurs were one of the few teams able to contain Shaq, but that was the anomaly, not the rule. Portland had good bigs in 2000 too, but they ruined the team chemistry when they added Vin Baker.

    Kobe just wasn't good enough facing elite defensive players. Shaq would still produce, even vs Robinson and Duncan, he was the Lakers best player. And its not even close.

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    Jesus Christ is this forum obsessed with Kobe

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    Jesus Christ is this forum obsessed with Kobe
    yes...BR_Pelican leads the butt-hurted Calvary...he's mad Kobe spurned his Hornets on draft day, Clipper fan upset because they have no rings, and Spur fan mad because it's Kobe 5 > TOSB 4....everyone has their own Kobe agenda...but for Kool...as long as they chumps are talking Kobe and the Lakers it's all gravy...

    butthurt gravy

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    Jesus Christ is this forum obsessed with Kobe
    Best closer, eh?

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    Mario GÖDze Bynumite's Avatar
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    Is Kobe the most fortunate superstars in the NBA?

    In lights of recent findings, should Kobe be even considered one of the top 15 greatest NBA players of all times?
    Since the Bin Harden acquisition, rocketfan started to show interest in Kobe's performances... how adorable

    And the answer to your question is no, Harden is not better than Kobe.

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    Best closer, eh?
    I've said numerous times that it was a fcken joke.

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    I've said numerous times that it was a fcken joke.
    Sure...

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    The Shaq rings don't count. That's been well established for some time now. I think we need to go further and not only say those two post-Shaq rings get an asterisk, but disqualify all his stats since 2004. Without those three rings (which we already know DO NOT count) Kobe's standing in that Colorado court room not as 3 time NBA champion Kobe Bryant, but as Kobe Bryant, black guy who raped a white lady. You think he would have beaten that rap then? Of course not. So none of the things he has accomplished as a free man in the time since that brush with the law should count. I really kind of feel bad that chucked away those games last spring when he still had a quality front line to protect his aura as a winner, but for the sake of the legitimacy of the game we need to move him back down the all time scoring list to reflect the time he likely would be spending behind bars at this time without Shaq's rings.

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    Gettin' Old ffadicted's Avatar
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    5

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    Dryer than Kunta's ankles Ashy Larry's Avatar
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    i checked multiple websites and other sources ...... they all said he had five which is still one more than Turdbag Timmy

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    Board Man Comes Home Clipper Nation's Avatar
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    I've said numerous times that it was a fcken joke.
    But the fact that the rest of your takes are so ty proves that you were actually being serious and now are trying to play it off as a joke to alleviate embarrassment, tbh...

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    2010 might be the worst performance ever by a "superstar" on a finals-winning team tbh. Never breaking 50% in any game of the finals despite averaging 23+ FGA/game. Not to mention the worst closeout performance in modern history.

    10/22 - 45%
    8/20 - 40%
    10/29 - 34%
    10/22 - 45%
    13/27 - 48%
    9/19 - 47%
    6/24 - 25%
    Dirk had a ty shooting finals and close out game as well tho tbh.

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    Dirk had a ty shooting finals and close out game as well tho tbh.
    Still averaged 10 ppg in the 4th quarter. Kobe was nowhere to be found, hiding behind Gasol and Fisher as usual.

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    rapists just a glorified role player imho, not much better than the prime mike james

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    rapists just a glorified role player imho, not much better than the prime mike james
    Man, that is cold.

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    Spur-taaaa TDMVPDPOY's Avatar
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    the 2 rings he won with the gasol transaction, without him he be first round fodder....

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    He has as many rings as Derek Fisher, though Fish has one more Finals appearance.

    Kobe
    not coattailing OKC in the twilight of his career
    needing Dwight, Nash, and a resurgent MWP to get him wins
    shut down by Jimmy Butler
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