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The only point guard I'd put over Tony is Paul (and Rose if/when he's 100%)
After extensive research and deep thought, I have determined the responsible parties in the conspiracy to devalue the career of San Antonio’s Tony Parker.
He is, you might have often read and heard, underrated and not appreciated – not, at least, as one of the best point guards of the past decade. When discussions of the great NBA point guards are in progress, Parker is an afterthought.
“Even today, with all he has done, he still doesn’t get the credit he deserves,” says Mavericks TV analyst Derek Harper, once an outstanding but, yes, underrated point guard. “All you hear about is Chris Paul and Deron Williams. People even rate Steve Nash over Tony right now.”
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Last edited by manufan10; 01-27-2013 at 04:16 PM.
The only point guard I'd put over Tony is Paul (and Rose if/when he's 100%)
Curry...
I'm a big fan of Curry, and no doubt he is a better shooter, but I'd take Tony right now. Obviously Curry is better long term, but aside from 3P% Tony is better than Curry across the board this year.
More assists, higher PER, fewer turnovers, higher FG% all in 6 fewer minutes/game. Curry is getting 1 point more per game, but when playing 6mpg more, I'd give the edge to Tony on that.
Like I say I'm a big fan of Curry (and the Warriors in general tbh) but for this season I'd take Parker.
I am not saying that i would take Curry over Tony, i am saying Curry is the most underrated...
did you know, that when you proportion Parker's minutes to Westbrook's, their stats will be almost identical except that Parker still takes less shot, shoots in high % and not pulling-up on long twos. :O
Fire, it's a disgrace that he isn't in the all star game
TDMVPDPOY will curse this thread
Truth bomb has been spoken.
stephen curry is fkn overrated whoever mention that he deserves a spot on the all star team this season
players must have 2 consecutive good seasons, to prove that the previous season was no fluke
this should fkn apply every clown who wants to appear selected to the all star team or any nba team awards end of year....
Parker is so underrated it's silly.
His performance last night was frightening in its ferocity.
But the only way he overcomes the lack of recognition is if he leads the way to a series win over OKC or Miami (rather than start out hot and fade as the series plays out).
He's an All Star... not sure how that's underrated...
frOm an individual performance he can put up stats no doubt about it, he can match any pg production for the night h2h whoever his up against......<<< the problem here is he also allows the other pg to get their own seasonal avg stats, whats the point if his trading baskets with themTDMVPDPOY will curse this thread
we have never seen him dominate anyone and shut them down or force them to produce below their seasonal avgs...
i wont rank him cause its hard to rank him, even though some of you clowns have him top3-5 which are all debatable depending on what ur team is looking for in a PG
He fades too much the longer the series goes on and teams adjust to him where you see him just the bed every time teams chuck a bigger defender on him....this has gone on too long iimo that he hasnt find a way around it
i dunno what sort of recognition his going to get when the most important games his always getting bailed out by the backup PG....
Good article by Jan Hubbard. The only flaw I see is where he says he can't say Tony Parker is better than Deron Williams. That's actually no contest.
Parker >>>>>>>>>>>> Williams
Best case scenario is the Spurs get the first seed and then play CP3 and the Clippers in the WCF. Not only is that a better matchup than OKC, we get to see TP vs. CP3 Round 3.
I know CP3 was "injured" last year so Parker's cromination of him has been given an asterisk. Back in 2008, CP3 was pretty much impossible for the Spurs to guard ... but that was largely because of that Tyson Chandler alleyoop threat. If the Spurs guarded CP3 at all coming off that pick, he'd just toss it in the air and Chandler would dunk it. CP3 doesn't have that huge pressure valve with the Clippers ... so the Spurs can actually gameplan against him.
But even back in 2008, Parker was the one who came up clutch in Game 7 on the road while Duncan and Ginobili were choking and CP3 was deferring to Jannero Pargo. In that fourth quarter, Parker was 3-for-5 with eight points and the danger jumper with under a minute to go. Duncan and Ginobili were a combined 0-for-10 from the floor; in fact, that duo missed their last 13 shots from the field going back to the middle of the third quarter.
So, yeah, a rubber match would be awesome to watch. The two best PGs in the league battling for a trip to the Finals. Let's just hope CP3 isn't "injured" again, tbh.
they are about even no matter how much u wanna say parker>williams.....williams has the bed ever since he became a coach killer, getting traded, getting fat and losing interest cause is not going as he sign up to....
Gasp!!!! Tim Duncan only chokes when he is auto erotically asphyxiating him self!!! Have some respect!
Wut? Didn't Manu hit like 7 3s in that game?
It's easy to throw Deron under the bus with his current struggles, but let's not pretend that Tony doesn't greatly benefit from having years in a system, having a good, stable team and also consistency in coaching.
The last time Williams was in that situation (in Utah), he was widely regarded as much better than TP.
Obviously, Deron's demise is not TP's fault at all, but Williams own doing. That said, the gap in talent is much smaller than 12 '>', IMO.
Tony's play last night was pretty ferocious! As ElNono pointed out, he is an All Star. Like Jack said, I think he should be starting.
And Manu was clutch as in that Hornets game, tbh... drawing 3 fouls in the final minute and making all 6 of the freebies to send us to the WCF... that's with a bum ankle too.
When Parker comes up big late in a series, the Spurs win. Simple as that. He's the weather vane.
Problem is, ever since '04 the theory has been, pack the paint on TP and foul him hard every time he goes to the hole. Don't worry, the NBA won't protect him -- at least not against the OKC, Miami, and Lakers of the world.
It's not Parker's fault, but he's the victim nonetheless. It's just a flaw in the game that gets exploited by the opposition.
playing the victim game gtfo, teams adjust and u dont adjust is ur own downfall...packing the lane or chucking a bigger defender on parker all worked, if he had a reliable jumper then none of this wouldve happen
Isn't this where "spot up shooting specialist" Danny Green has to make his treys and create some space for Parker? If he can't make the shots then Parker will be bottled up again, and TD also. The Spurs pay him 3.5 mil. and thats his job on the O end.
Tony Parker's numbers were climbing steadily...until marriage. Had a (slight) lull there for a couple of seasons; but has been nails (and improving) ever since the divorce. At least as I see it. Regular sex (as opposed to marriage) makes a guy more productive.
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