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    In the NO series Manu was the best Spurs player. The series after the NO was Manu choking.

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    Sasha was good, tbh... Lakers haven't won since he left...

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    did he draw the fouls? Why the boxscore doesn't read Tony Parker draws the foul?
    Props on drawing intentional fouls. Quite a skill, tnbh.

    timvp where "26pts with 5rbds and 5assts in a winning effort is considered choking" and "being the fastest guy on the league is considered not being an athletic guy" happens.
    DAF86 where "0-for-13 isn't choking because he was able to draw intentional fouls" and "being able to jump isn't factored when judging an NBA player's athleticism" happens.

    BTW congrats on making this a Manu vs Tony thread, I missed these.

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    Props on drawing intentional fouls. Quite a skill, tnbh.
    I'm sure NO would've rather fouled somebody else... not 6-6 clutch Manu... but c'est la vie

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    I guess even if Manu retires at the end of the season we won't get rid of this Tony vs. Manu. Don't worry Tony will always be known as the better player. 5 AS appearances and 1 Finals MVP on his resume compared to Manu's wimpy 2 AS appearances.

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    tbh, if tony continues to play like he has the the past 4 games or so, im not sure there's a better point guard right now...

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    Players get severely underrated if they are either foreign or white. Dirk (one of the best pf of all time), DLee, Parker, Manu, etc

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    his way overrated and living on some form of reputation the spurs team have built that is still coat riding whatever is left of duncan, anchoring this team

    u clowns can say parker is carrying the load for the spurs, watta load of bull ...yes any contribution from him or others help, but this team only goes as far duncan will take them

    if you look at RS stats and PLAYOFF stats, parkers playoff stats doesnt increase that much from the RS, while duncans stats increase by more than +10% in the playoffs....call it coasting from duncan or whatever you want, but if he was a selfish bas he can post those type of playoff numbers in the regular season, but what does that benefit him besides padding his ac ulative stats....

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    tbh, if tony continues to play like he has the the past 4 games or so, im not sure there's a better point guard right now...
    misleading info man

    every time when 1 of the big 3 are not playing, expect production from either 2 increase, and games to be in the high +100 pts just to win a game, when the big 3 plays together the other team pts return to the opponents avg spurs hold them to....

    look at the games when 1 of them isnt playing...high scoring and OT sometimes

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    Parker is so underrated it's silly.His performance last night was frightening in its ferocity.But the only way he overcomes the lack of recognition is if he leads the way to a series win over OKC or Miami (rather than start out hot and fade as the series plays out).
    Parker plays for a small market team and they generally don't get the hype and publicity that large market teams receive unless your playing for OKC ( the new darlings of the NBA), but that doesn't mean Parker's being slighted. If Parker so underrated, why is he an all-star and why is picked by many to be a top 5 pg in the league? If Parker is so underrated, maybe you should start naming names. Just because every NBA segment doesn't begin and end with the words 'Tony Parker' doesn't mean he's underrated.
    Last edited by Hoops Czar; 01-27-2013 at 05:42 PM.

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    top5 pgs dont need backup pg to bail them out....

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    TP is top 5 in WS48. Tiago and Tim are 6th and 7th.

    I'm also expecting a Player of the Week nod for him.

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    Manu's ability to draw fouls and finish at the free throw line has helped the Spurs close out a lot of playoff games and series.

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    Manu's ability to draw fouls and finish at the free throw line has helped the Spurs close out a lot of playoff games and series.
    i dont usually hate on ginoboli, but i need a new target

    playing in the summer, gettin injured in the regular season, injured end of the rs heading into the playoffs with ur 3rd best player not at his best....dont forget the stupid turnovers flashy passes....

    his mistake in 06 is just as bad as parkers choke job every time teams continue to use the same plan against him shutting down the lanes and puttin a big wing defender on him....

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    TDMVPDPOY going HAM on everyone is pretty funny now that he raised his effort level from 1 to 7, IMO

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    if u clowns wanna discuss parkers rookie/sopho years, we can get into it...i got alot of stuff to say for those years heading into 02/03 season...

    C.o.P come at me bro

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    i dont usually hate on ginoboli, but i need a new target

    playing in the summer, gettin injured in the regular season, injured end of the rs heading into the playoffs with ur 3rd best player not at his best....dont forget the stupid turnovers flashy passes....

    his mistake in 06 is just as bad as parkers choke job every time teams continue to use the same plan against him shutting down the lanes and puttin a big wing defender on him....

    Nice memory. I've beensince then.

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    Yes. Being a part of an 0-for-13 stretch in the final 18 minutes is a choke. It's pretty much the textbook definition. Game 7, on the road, needing baskets .... 0-for-13. Choke.

    Do you think 6-for-19 with no made field goals in the final 18 minutes is a choke? Yes or no, simple answer.

    And, yes, it's possible to be fast but not a good athlete in terms of jumping and being overpowering in the air by NBA standards. Not exactly a hard concept to follow, IMO.
    How dare you say Duncan and Ginobili choked in a big game. That automatically means you're calling them chokers in general and the entire Spurs organization that, too . . . bandwagon to a T.

    Parker and Splitter are the two most underrated players in the league. Parker in the sense that he's an established star and future Hall-of-Famer, who's constantly overlooked for not just the usual suspects, but any flavor of the month as well. He's unquestionably one of the ten best players in the league at this point. And Splitter in the sense that the masses still think he's just some random player and don't realize that his advanced stats indicate he has a star level impact.

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    Spurs fans are funny. They have a damn good PG for a peanut bag that actually listen his coach, doesn't care about his stats, carry the load and half of them still don't like him. In the actual NBA you should all suck his balls all day long.

    this tdmvpdpoty dude is quite comical tbh

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    How dare you say Duncan and Ginobili choked in a big game. That automatically means you're calling them chokers in general and the entire Spurs organization that, too . . . bandwagon to a T.

    Parker and Splitter are the two most underrated players in the league. Parker in the sense that he's an established star and future Hall-of-Famer, who's constantly overlooked for not just the usual suspects, but any flavor of the month as well. He's unquestionably one of the ten best players in the league at this point. And Splitter in the sense that the masses still think he's just some random player and don't realize that his advanced stats indicate he has a star level impact.
    someone needs to tell me why this clown parker is underrated....

    if anyone is underrated on this damn team, its that tosb scrub TIM DUNCAN playin in a small market team who won 4 rings.....lol rating coat riders

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    I'm not going to get drawn into the Manu vs. Tony thing, LJ, but I will say that I think Game 7 at NO in 2008 is a poor choice IMO if you want to debate which one is more clutch, for a variety of reasons.

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    The whole team is underrated. That's why we are the San Antonio Spurs. Its the same ho-hum every year so nobody gets extra recognition.

    Tony Parker is vastly underrated. The only PG I'd take over him right now is CP3

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    I'm not going to get drawn into the Manu vs. Tony thing, LJ, but I will say that I think Game 7 at NO in 2008 is a poor choice IMO if you want to debate which one is more clutch, for a variety of reasons.
    parker hasnt beatened any PG worth mentioning without the assistance of some form of injury to that player or a bailout from backup pg....yet the clowns here would give him the credit of the win team/player...

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    Parker is very underrated. We already know this. But who cares? The less attention we get, the better the Spurs play.

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    Spurs fans are funny. They have a damn good PG for a peanut bag that actually listen his coach, doesn't care about his stats, carry the load and half of them still don't like him. In the actual NBA you should all suck his balls all day long.

    this tdmvpdpoty dude is quite comical tbh
    I apologize on behalf of many of the posters on these boards. Many of our "fans" have become so spoiled with this organization's success over the years that many of them are ready to kick our own players (even our best ones) to the curb the minute they do something wrong or don't produce. It's laughable really.

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