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We wouldn't hate them if we traded for them.
Who liked Richard Jefferson on the Nets? Who likes him now on GS? Who liked Turkoglu on Orlando?
I'd get over my hate pretty quick. I'd hope it'd be Lee though. As a wing defender he matches up favorably to big points like Westbrook and small guards like Wade. Did you guys see Lee scraping on Wade on the day game today? He'd be perfect. Plus he is a career ace from the corner. He's not great but not a throw in either. His salary sort of sucks though but KG would come at a discount. I think KG is underpaid. He makes Nene money. JaVale money.
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100% agree - Dudley is perfect fit on Spurs - can defend and is very efficeint offensive player - has a reasonable contract - I would'nt even mind the Spurs overpaying a little to get him - just not sure we have the right peices to offer Suns as they would most likely be looking for picks/young talent - and really don't have any bad contracts
If Timmy saw this move as putting the Spurs over the top, I find it very hard to believe that he'd veto it just because he might not like the guy.
It's just another instance of dumbfan. Spurs fans extol the virtues of Duncan's professionalism morning noon and night, but when a situation arises where you'd think they'd take that into account, they completely forget and their takes make Duncan sound like a moody teenage girl.
That being said, I'm apathetic on the idea of trading for Garnet, mainly because it won't happen, so why waste brain power on it.
i'd be happy if the spurs pay splitter big bucks, i think he's worth it. if they have to, i could understand them pullin a trade like the thunder did with harden. but not for kg. he's too old, and he's also an asshole. i'd like to see them target drummond, nicholson, or sullinger in harden/splitter scenario. maybe zeller, robinson, or henson if we could get a 1st and turn blair into something to make the depth chart that much better.
no question.
That said, Duncan from multiple interviews just doesn't like him at all, and its not him sounding like an emo teenager. Deeper than that it seems.
I have no doubt the hate is real, and justified, but the question is if Duncan would let that take precedence over what could push this team over the top towards a Championship.
Though the question remains if swapping Splitter for KG would actually do that. With how well Splitter is playing now that he's starting, I'm not so sure about that.
Aside from dislike, Duncan clearly respects KG and what he is capable of bringing. That is to say: strong defense and a very reliable midrange jumper. KG can still move pretty quickly, even at his old age.
If it is possible to get KG in a deal without giving up too much else, I don't see how you could pass up that deal. Duncan at C, KG at PF, even in their mid-30s, that is a deadly combo on both ends of the floor. If the Spurs are in win-now mode (they should be), and this deal is even remotely possible (probably not), go for it.
IF TD gives his blessing and KG's just as enthusiast, i'd certainly give up Splitter (and Neal + Blair if Celtics want more talents as compensation) for him (especially with Baynes around as a candidate for decent 4th rotation big). But only for KG and no extra sweetener (picks).
TD/Baynes
KG/Diaw
Kawhi/D-leaguer or waived player
Green/Manu
TP/DeColo
I think that's a solid rotation as a contending team for the next few years (assuming Manu's resigned for 2 years) until TD & KG call it a day and we start (truly) rebuilding.
old as dust kg? LMAO , is this a serious thread?
I guess my other gripe about a hypothetical KG to Spurs for Splitter scenario is that I'm not entirely sold on how it makes the Spurs better from a team perspective.
Garnett's rebounding percentages look good but he's pretty much the only big on an undersized roster. Also, since KL's return this starting line-up has been the best defensive line-up in the league. It's dominating as is. And so far I'm just not convinced that a straight up swap would do much to improve it since KG has seriously been slowing down.
Now adding KG to the frontline so that you have something like TD/KG/TS/BD would be an upgrade. Otherwise it actually seems like a lateral move because of the issues with playing 2 older C's. Offensively it would be better but right now I don't think either KG or TD should be chasing players out on the perimeter.
this is what it would take. i dont think the spurs would like it
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=arn7en3
Haha no!
I love how this trade makes both teams worse according to the numbers.
Great points, especially about how dominant the starting lineup has been defensively. I'm not sure I want the Spurs to risk that chemistry. Plus, Splitter is so much younger and has a lot more potential. His minutes may be able to increase over the next two seasons, and that would help Duncan out a lot. Can't say the same with KG.
That would the Spurs so hard against OKC
Splitter still has lots of potential. Just look at some of his highlights from overseas.
For those who keep clamoring for a KG-to-S.A. trade, you've obviously not paid attention to the personalities of either KG or Duncan for the past 15 years. KG is a very loyal cat and he certainly would not accept a trade anywhere out of Boston. He seriously contemplated retirement before being talked into coming back. Meanwhile Duncan's career-long disdain for KG is well-do ented. Face it folks, this is a pipe dream that would NEVER happen.
Could work right? We'd lose cap flex but The Celtics would get out of a long term deal of a role player that they thought would help them contend.
Shut it down.
KG would just be a bad idea. He would take time from Tiago, he would be too expensive, he would let his mouth write checks that his ass can't cash and he would make tiago too expensive ("oh you are paying KG 12 mil a year at 65 years old, I think I should get at least 12 mil")
It might be interesting to see rondo and diaw playing hot pototoe with the lay-ups?
Splitter stepping up is what has given TD his mobility to play offense away from the basket this year, why would the Spurs give that up?
KG to SA will never happen. IF KG does go on the block, there are foolish gms/owners that would offer better deals than anything the Spurs could offer. Just look to our north, where I hear the "Bank of Cuban" is open.
I dont see what Dallas has in terms of young players on cheap deals that would interest the Celtics. They could give up this years pick with minimal protection + expirings for KG + Terry. Thats probably better than anything the Spurs have to offer.
Quite simply, we just don't have either the young talent or picks to interest the Celtics in a trade.
What Dallas does have is a deep-pocket owner desperate to make his team relevant again.
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