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    His numbers last season, were ridiculous.

    josh smith 18.8 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 3.9 apg, 1.7 bpg. 1.4 spg. 45% FG
    the numbers are note the problem, spurs never relied on individual statistic, the secret of spurs succes is balance and chemistry.

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    It's not that Smith is a scrub - far from it. Yet, let's not sit here and act as though he's a superstar-level player that can have a consistent affect on playoff games. Again, he's never led Atlanta to one playoff-series victory in his career and for the past several years, he wasn't even their best player until Joe Johnson left. The fact is this guy is not a player with a high BBIQ, despite being a superb defensive player. To expect the Spurs to disrupt their chemistry and take a chance on bringing him in - even for five months - is short-sighted. Even if the Spurs entertained this notion, which they will not, there's just not enough time for him to learn their offense - and let's face it, he's not the most disciplined player in the world. This thought of this potential acquisition has "backfire" written all over it. Spurs are much too smart for that.
    Well even after Joe Johnson left, I think the Hawks' best player is Al Horford. Now, Horford for me is a good Spurs player. Unfortunately Atlanta will never let him go. He is on a good contract as well.

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    the numbers are note the problem, spurs never relied on individual statistic, the secret of spurs succes is balance and chemistry.
    No the secret is the stars playing at star level like every good team in the league. Doesn't make you feel as special but its the truth.

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    It's not that Smith is a scrub - far from it. Yet, let's not sit here and act as though he's a superstar-level player that can have a consistent affect on playoff games. Again, he's never led Atlanta to one playoff-series victory in his career and for the past several years, he wasn't even their best player until Joe Johnson left. The fact is this guy is not a player with a high BBIQ, despite being a superb defensive player. To expect the Spurs to disrupt their chemistry and take a chance on bringing him in - even for five months - is short-sighted. Even if the Spurs entertained this notion, which they will not, there's just not enough time for him to learn their offense - and let's face it, he's not the most disciplined player in the world. This thought of this potential acquisition has "backfire" written all over it. Spurs are much too smart for that.
    They didn't even reach the playoffs until Al Horford arrived

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    No the secret is the stars playing at star level like every good team in the league. Doesn't make you feel as special but its the truth.
    of course, but star who allow their team to sign good supporting cast cause they don't beg for max contract. and thats the thing that makes spurs 's star special

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    His numbers last season, were ridiculous.

    josh smith 18.8 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 3.9 apg, 1.7 bpg. 1.4 spg. 45% FG
    45% is frighteningly mediocre for a 4 who thinks he's a floor spreader. His TS% last season was... 49%. Yuck.

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    good player posting numbers on a bad team

    dont get suck into this again like the spurs did with RJ misleading stats, come here to ba cog rotational player where he wont be posting those sort of stats behind the big 3

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    45% is frighteningly mediocre for a 4 who thinks he's a floor spreader. His TS% last season was... 49%. Yuck.
    What is Stephen Jackson's TS%, because that's the only player currently contributing that the author is suggesting the Spurs give up.

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    What is Stephen Jackson's TS%, because that's the only player currently contributing that the author is suggesting the Spurs give up.
    Well it's obviously much worse.

    But I don't think Atlanta bites. They'd look like clear losers and the Spurs have rarely pulled off lopsided trades.

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    Well it's obviously much worse.

    But I don't think Atlanta bites. They'd look like clear losers and the Spurs have rarely pulled off lopsided trades.
    Actually, it's 48.6%. If you're unhappy about Stephen Jackson, you should want no part of Josh Smith in our offense. At least Jack is only playing 9 minutes. Smith would be mucking up the offense for probably 35 minutes per game. Yuck.

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    the numbers are note the problem, spurs never relied on individual statistic, the secret of spurs succes is balance and chemistry.
    When Duncan posted 2000 pts, 1000 rebounds, and 200 blocks in a single season, it sure didn't hurt.

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    45% is frighteningly mediocre for a 4 who thinks he's a floor spreader. His TS% last season was... 49%. Yuck.
    Duncan shot 48 or 49% last season, that isn't that far off. Duncan also had the benefit of playing with a much better play maker in Parker/Ginobili.

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    When Duncan posted 2000 pts, 1000 rebounds, and 200 blocks in a single season, it sure didn't hurt.
    So you think Smith would average the same numbers on the Spurs as he does now in Atlanta?

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    Duncan shot 48 or 49% last season, that isn't that far off. Duncan also had the benefit of playing with a much better play maker in Parker/Ginobili.
    Timmy was at 53.1 TS% last season.

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    Duncan shot 48 or 49% last season, that isn't that far off. Duncan also had the benefit of playing with a much better play maker in Parker/Ginobili.
    There is a HUGE difference between 45% and 49%. People are marvelling at Tim's rejuvenation, and he's only gone from .492 to .505, a much smaller jump than the Grand Canyon between .450 and .490.

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    There is a HUGE difference between 45% and 49%. People are marvelling at Tim's rejuvenation, and he's only gone from .492 to .505, a much smaller jump than the Grand Canyon between .450 and .490.
    Did you read the last part of my comment, better coaching, & better passers certainly didn't hurt Duncan's percentages. if Josh Smith completely cut out the 3 he could improve that number, similar to Marion and Dirk when they stopped shooting nearly as much 3's. Looking at Tim's FG% to determine his "rejuvenation" if I'm understanding you point, makes no since.

    Per 36 minutes

    -Scoring in the highest since he was 32.
    -Blocks per 36 minutes highest of career/ Personal fouls fewest of career.
    -Total Rebounding highest since age 31, 4th best of 15 year career.
    -Steals highest of career
    -Free Throw % highest of career.

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    So you think Smith would average the same numbers on the Spurs as he does now in Atlanta?
    No, I meant that the comment that the spurs don't rely on big individual numbers, is a little idealist, Duncan was an absolute monster. The Spurs benefited from his all around greatness. Smith couldn't dream of those numbers, but definitely has a versatile collection of skills. 19pts, 9.5 rpg, 1.5 bpg, 1.4 spg and 4.0 apg is very impressive. Considering he had to share with Iso-Joe for last year.

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    Did you read the last part of my comment, better coaching, & better passers certainly didn't hurt Duncan's percentages. if Josh Smith completely cut out the 3 he could improve that number, similar to Marion and Dirk when they stopped shooting nearly as much 3's. Looking at Tim's FG% to determine his "rejuvenation" if I'm understanding you point, makes no since.

    Per 36 minutes

    -Scoring in the highest since he was 32.
    -Blocks per 36 minutes highest of career/ Personal fouls fewest of career.
    -Total Rebounding highest since age 31, 4th best of 15 year career.
    -Steals highest of career
    -Free Throw % highest of career.
    He's also at 55 TS%, which while not a career high looks great especially since he's taking more shots away from the basket.

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    Timmy was at 53.1 TS% last season.
    Didn't look at TS%. Someone commented to me about Smith's mediocre shooting percentage and I replied with Tims FG%. I actually don't know Smith's TS% last season.

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    He's also at 55 TS%, which while not a career high looks great especially since he's taking more shots away from the basket.
    Duly noted.

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    Didn't look at TS%. Someone commented to me about Smith's mediocre shooting percentage and I replied with Tims FG%. I actually don't know Smith's TS% last season.
    That was me, and Smith's TS% last season was a whopping 49%. That blows.

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    That was me, and Smith's TS% last season was a whopping 49%. That blows.
    Fair enough. He must be a really ty FT shooter.

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    When Duncan posted 2000 pts, 1000 rebounds, and 200 blocks in a single season, it sure didn't hurt.
    I love when people does like they doesn't understand what i mean, of course a great team have great player that put big numbers but my point is that putting superstar with big number in the same team is not the magic answer to be successful just watch the lakers!
    I know it's a bit difficult for most nba fan to understand that statistics doesn't say it all of a player, a team or a game.

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    I love when people does like they doesn't understand what i mean, of course a great team have great player that put big numbers but my point is that putting superstar with big number in the same team is not the magic answer to be successful just watch the lakers!
    I know it's a bit difficult for most nba fan to understand that statistics doesn't say it all of a player, a team or a game.
    I get your point, but I was making a joke and then someone asked me about it an i responded.

    Didn't realize your were on such a higher plane with your fundamental understanding of the game of basketball, I'll simply defer to you every time I get stumped with the basic questions regarding the NBA.

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    I'll simply defer to you every time I get stumped with the basic questions regarding the NBA.
    for sure, I'll be more than happy to educate yourself.

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