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*2011-2012
past his prime, TOSB, etc., tbh
while looking up top defenders and possible trades for the spurs to become a defensive power house good ol matt bonners name popped up.... guess pops smarter than we think in his love affair for the red rocket and all the bonner haters can suck a fat one http://www.sportingcharts.com/articl...011-2012).aspx
*2011-2012
past his prime, TOSB, etc., tbh
I think its the ginger effect, people assume hes worse than what he really is. Matty Ice was the king of +/- for a reason tbh.
I've been laughed at til people were blue in the face when I would defend Bonner. He is an above-average post defender, elite 3-pt shooter, and a solid piece on a championship team if he's playing 10-15 minutes a night.
Oh no, CoB is out in full force.
That said Bonbon is a solid post defender. He did solid work on ZBo.
But the problem is his team defense, and that's more important.
With his limited minutes, teams can't abuse him in the post.
Poor article. Does not consider the limited minutes that Bonner has played.. does not consider other defensive metrics stats - adjusted per minutes stats etc as well as the more sophisticated Synergy Stats on the same subject.
Having said that, Bonner's post defense is better than it is acknowledged by us.
Maybe the other 4 Spurs on the court put their defensive game face on when they see the red rocket checking into the game and know they have to work 10 x harder to defend and help on Bonner's man, so they do, to cover for Boner. Alas, Bonner getting bull positive defensive stats. He should thank the other 4 homies on the court busting their ass for that stat.
Look, no one seriously thinks that Bonner is this horrible player. He defends pretty well, he shoots very well, then he turns into the great red hole in the playoffs. THAT is why spurs fans can't stand him.
If Bonner could hit shots in the playoffs he would be an excellent player. Sadly, he can't, which is why he is so frustrating.
Career 42% 3 point shooter in regular season, 32% in the playoffs.
If Bonners could produce in the playoffs what he does in the regular season, maybe Duncan already has 5 rings.
Not true. It's great for what he is, and for how he's been used recently, but not for a starter or the first big off the bench. It's what many of us have been saying about him forever. Bonner plays decent position, puts his hands up, never jumps and never fouls (on purpose). For a reasonably tall guy with short arms and low athletic ability, he's a great post defender. Being able to hide him on the floor before the opposing post player gets too much confidence and goes on a hot streak is the trick.
If he's not hitting his shots he deserves no time on the floor. If he were even an average post defender, he could eat up minutes at his position without scoring.
Then explain why we were 10-1 with Bonner playing and 0-3 when he didnt. 2011-2012 playoffs.
I suspect this too. I think more players take ill-advised jump shots against Bonner than they otherwise would. Just a hunch, I have no numbers to back this up.
The only part I disagree with is the "if he's playing 10-15 minutes a night." If he's so good, why should he play less? I don't follow that logic. The only reasoning I can think of is if you think his performance would degrade beyond 15 minutes, but there's no good reason to think it would. It doesn't happen with any other player.
This appears to be the opposite of what everyone, including myself, thinks. He's an excellent team defender according to the numbers, it's his individual D that is suspect, due to his lack of athleticism. What makes you think otherwise?
Where do you get this from? Perhaps we should run an NHL-style rotation and sub new guys in every 60 seconds so nobody ever gets abused in the post?
I don't follow. The numbers very consistently and conclusively show he is an average post defender. Not just the linked numbers, I'm talking every set of metrics for virtually every season. The only thing that points to him not being a good defender is people's eyeballs.
Show me the stats from the playoffs
Bonner has been playing in garbage time against scrubs. Easy to inflate stats that way, especially when teams are typically down double digits against us and need threes rather than close up shots.
From his lack of minutes.
The only guy who ever gets abused in the post is Bonner, and what the Spurs are doing now works fine. No need to change it. Bonner's back to being what he should have been when Robert Horry retired.
That would be the eyeballs of every player that Bonner checks when they light up with excitement at all the points they're going to score. If Bonner were a good defender, Pop would still be starting him. He's not. He never has been. He never will be. He tries hard to hold position, he tries hard to challenge shots, he tries hard to keep the other guy from scoring. The only thing he's above average at defensively is effort, which is a requirement to get any floor time at all.
actually, I completely agree with you. my only contention is that he is made out to be a worthless stiff by this forum..which .. he is definitely not.
bonner seriously is a better defender than tim duncan...does duncan defend the other teams best big man night in night out? NO
duncan has been exposed when he had no other big beside him, who was always defending the teams big man...while duncan was guarding some head to preserve his 6fouls....
do i need to tell you clowns most of duncans blocks come from a bonner/spliiter bigman already got his man covered and blocked, while duncan is blocking t hem from behind gets credited for the block
TOSB stealing stats from his own bigs who already got the job done...
No, it's because a lot of our "fans" are racist pieces of .
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