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Probably Drexler Blazers (Bulls), followed by Webber Kings (refs). Both teams would have won it all under normal cir stances.
Maybe throw in the Dirk Mavs of the mid 00s, but then they won it all in 11.
Who would you say is the best team to not win a championship over the past 3 decades (80s 90s 00s)?
Now when I say this, I don't mean a team like the 03-04 Lakers who had Malone and Payton, because their main team was still Kobe and Shaq, who had won 3 championships already.
Stockton/Malone Jazz?
Payton/Kemp Sonics?
Webber/Bibby/Peja Kings?
Nash/Amare/Marion Suns?
Sabonis/Wallace/Stoudemire Blazers?
Drexler/Porter/Kersey/Robinson Blazers?
Shaq/Penny/Grant Magic?
Miller/Jackson/Rose Pacers?
Ewing/Starks Knicks?
Robinson/Elliott/Avery Spurs?
Aguirre/Blackmon/Harper/Tarpley Mavericks?
Moncrief/ mings Bucks?
Hardaway/Mourning/Mashburn Heat?
Barkley/Hawkins 76ers?
Barkley/Majerle/KJ Suns?
Other?
Probably Drexler Blazers (Bulls), followed by Webber Kings (refs). Both teams would have won it all under normal cir stances.
Maybe throw in the Dirk Mavs of the mid 00s, but then they won it all in 11.
Sonics
Jazz
HOF big-2nd in career points, 2x MVP
HOF PG- 1st in career assists and steals
18 years together- extremely durable, both are in top 7 in career games and minutes
15 of those years with a HOF coach
11 50+ win seasons
3 60+ win seasons
2 trips to the Finals
that Dallas squad from the late eighties was nice as well ..........
no bigger failure than Utah in 1998. Pippen with a bad back. Harper old and sick. Jordan practically launching shots and Utah had home court and playing in a place where they damn near never lose.
Kings: ed by ref is worst than having the bad luck to play during MJ era
I've said it many times. The Lakers weren't the best team that year. You don't go down 20 points at home in back-to-back games. Lakers better be lucky that replay wasn't allowed back then because the Samaki Walker shot would have been taken off the board. Kings were clearly the better team in that series but they dropped the ball in Game 7. With that said, if weren;t for the refs, there wouldn't have been a game 7 to worry about.
Hardly. Try being ed by ref AND playing during the MJ era. Too much to overcome.
Kings, when they were ed by Stern, refs and economy
Jazz/Blazzers
I can't feel sorry for the got Kings, even despite the screw job. They lost all my sympathy when they proceeded to miss 14 FTs and shoot 2-20 from 3, at home, in game 7. That series was not defined by game 6 alone. Kings fans/supporters complaining they lost the series because of that one game is like Suns fans saying "if not for the Amare suspension..." Point is, the Kings had plenty of chances to put that series on ice. They lost game 1 at home. If Vlade knew how to grab a rebound, Horry never hits that buzzer beater, the Kings go up 3-1 and probably close it out in 5. And as mentioned before, if they could make FTs and hit a damn 3, they win in 7. Not to mention all the big leads they blew over the course of that series.
The Kings didn't get ripped off. They choked.
There shouldn't have been a game 7 to start with. I liked that team a lot and at least in my mind they were the better team. During a serie against a tough opponent you blow leads, you miss 3s (FTs is more inexcusable), you make runs etc... if your point is to say they were not perfect, this we agree. if your point is to say they lost against a better team we disagree. If ref were half decent this serie was over in 6.
This. They blew a 24-point lead in Game 4, too. I know they got homered in Game 6 but the Kings made their own bed in that series.
I'm pretty sure the Jazz didn't deal with both. Just the MJ era. Nice try though.
Tough call. I think I'd go with
1. The Kemp/Payton/Hawkins/Schrempf Sonics
2. The Barkley/KJ/Majerle/Dumas Suns
3. The Webber/Divac/Bibby/Stojakovic Kings
as my top 3. ing New York, I loved that Knicks team until they traded Mark Jackson and their offense went to . Derek Harper was nice defensively, but I have to think Ewing rings if they had Mark Jackson in the mid 90s.
He's probably talking about two really awful calls in game 6 of 98:
- The Eisley three that was something like 2 seconds before the buzzer but got waved off (lol Bavetta)
- A Ron Harper shot in the fourth that didn't beat the shot clock
MJ pushoff
I do think the Kings were a better team. If those two teams were to play each other 100 times, the Kings probably win 60 of the games. My central point is the Kings had more than enough chances to put the Lakers away and couldn't do it. Also, there's no guarantee the Kings win game 6 if it was called fairly.
I'm not trying to be an apologist for the Lakers. No one loves ting on their accomplishments more than me, but I just can't grant victimhood to a team that misses 14 FTs and shoots 2-20 from 3 in the most important game of the franchise's history.
Agree with mid to an extent..
Game 6 was the worst officiated game in NBA history, to the point where even the Lakers media questioned the officials..however, the Kings choked worse than any team of the 2000s IMO..blowing massive leads, missing free throws..Peja's air ball from the baseline was the hallmark shot for those Kings, tbh..
A team with Chris Webber probably wasn't meant to ring, fate wouldn't allow it, tbh..
agree with most of the Lakers/Kings talk ......... still feel Sac was the better squad. They farted away chances left and right and really should have gone back to Sac up 3-1
Kings bigger chokers than the 06 Mavs?
1 jazz
2 sonics
3 blazers
I think it's fair to go ahead and scratch any team off that didn't make the finals.
Not neccesarily. There are squads like the late 80s Mavericks and early 2000's Kings who were better than a lot of teams that have made the finals over the years, arguably even better than some teams who won it, like most any eastern conference team that made it from 2000-2007 (except maybe the Pistons), and the 03 Spurs and 06 Heat for teams that won it.
Honestly I'm not that upset with the MJ pushoff, and don't blame the refs for not calling it. The other two calls/non calls (Eisley 3, Harper shot) still bother me today.
Agree with mid to an extent..
Game 6 was the worst officiated game in NBA history, to the point where even the Lakers media questioned the officials
A team with Chris Webber probably wasn't meant to ring, fate wouldn't allow it, tbh..
Webber had a good all around series against the Lakers. He wasn't the one missing 3's and FT's. As midnight said, in game 7 the Kings shot 2-20 from 3 and 16 of 30 from the line. Peja went 0-6 from 3. Vlade made only 5 of his 10 free throw attempts whereas Shaq shot 11-15. The Kings would have been better served had Peja spent the entire series, not just part of it on the bench. Maybe his injury bothered him more than we know. He shot lights out in the 2011 series against the Lakers.
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