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I saw this earlier and paid it no mind because of how dumb it is. Along with the other outrageous potential trades they were coming up with. Both of these trades would be horrible and will never happen, period.
ESPN did a roundtable discussing the best deals to be had for five of the top NBA trade targets (Garnett, Gasol, Josh Smith, Re , and Pierce). The Spurs were mentioned twice, but the entire article can be found here:
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/...-trade-targets
Jack Winter, WarriorsWorld: Garnett and Melo to the Spurs for Kawhi Leonard, Tiago Splitter and Boris Diaw. Leonard is one of the league's true blue-chip prospects, a great athlete with elite defensive potential. Splitter has value, too. A small-picture view like this is against the Spurs' very fabric as an organization, but Garnett and Tim Duncan on the same front line? If there was ever a reason to swing for the fences, this might be it.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aqnfhwg
Harris: J.J. Re and Hedo Turkoglu to Spurs for Stephen Jackson, Matt Bonner and Patty Mills. Orlando basically moves ahead one year in its rebuilding by turning Hedo's two-year, $11 million deal into Jackson's expiring $10 million deal. The Spurs would bite the bullet on Hedo's contract in order to gain the stellar Re , who gives them yet another proficient shooter and defender.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b6xwy9g
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As a Spurs fan, I'm not sure I'd do either trade. Not a huge fan of bringing in Garnett, largely for personality reasons, and definitely not a fan of giving up Kawhi and/or Tiago to do it.
The Re trade is a little more tempting, but a horrible deal financially, especially considering Hedo's contract for next year. It would also probably push the Spurs into the luxury tax for this season, something I imagine the Spurs don't want to do unless it's a slam dunk trade. While Re would be nice off the bench, and obviously Hedo knows at least some of the system, I'm not sure the trade really addresses a need the Spurs have at the moment. (Top 2 off the top of my head: backup big (if Baynes doesn't contribute this season) and solid backup PG.)
I saw this earlier and paid it no mind because of how dumb it is. Along with the other outrageous potential trades they were coming up with. Both of these trades would be horrible and will never happen, period.
I'd say no to both. Garnett isn't worth giving up 2 starters and our 1st big off the bench for, and the Orlando trade brings in too much money to be worth it. Also I don't really want Hedo back here.
Hedo will never wear a Spurs jersey again but if it was possible to get Red i would make some deal
i dont like green as a starter
hes been proven to be an inconsistent shooter whos defense relies on confidence from making shots
Jalen Rose the other day suggested a Jackson+Splitter for Garnett swap
i would do that one in a heartbeat tbh
Re a proficient defender is absolutely hilarious. Dude couldn't guard an unused postage stamp.
Yes, I mean, why WOULDN'T we want to put Duncan on the court with a guy he can't stand?
I'd love to have KG on the Spurs, but there's no way I'd do it for Leonard and Splitter, that's just ridiculous..
Re would be a nice fit, but I'd vomit if I had to see Turkoglu in a Spurs jersey again..
horrible trades ........... but never say never scott layden is the spurs assistant gm ...........
Yes, I mean, why WOULDN'T we want to put Duncan on the court with a guy he can't stand?
and btw red is a high iq player
he can easily fit into the team concept of san antonios defense
and its not really possible to be a worse defender then danny green at getting through screens
if your a SG in SA you need to be able to defend screens/run guys of the 3 point/contest mid range shots which red can do
i dont like this stat but it actually proves that danny is worse since hes the starter on an elite defensive team
Danny Green opposing SG per for 48 minutes = 15.5
Red = 14.3
There are few guys out there worth moving Leonard for and at this stage I don't think Garnett's one of them, to mention nothing of the fact that he could be the one guy in the entire league that Tim Duncan might object to.
And while Jackson is looking used up this season the idea of trading him for Hedo would send this board into full blown meltdown mode. Simply the amount of lol threads that would be started downstairs in response to the freakouts over such a trade would be enough to crash a server.
This is where I come out on this. Garnett absolutely does not fit with Spurs' mentality. He seems emotionally unstable half the time, and we don't need another geriatric case. Keep Splitter. Check out Baynes. If Garnett wants to come here for Jackson, the mental cases would probably cancel each other out.Yes, I mean, why WOULDN'T we want to put Duncan on the court with a guy he can't stand?
But really, it makes no sense.
Red is a decent defender these days. People assume he can't defend because he is unathletic and white, tbh.
That said, both of these deals disgust me and the Spurs wouldn't do either.
These trades are so ing ty. Leonard AND Splitter (and Diaw, who has a no-trade clause - he'd veto this one) for Garnett and a prospect? And as someone mentioned, SJAX for Hedo?
Leonard AND Splitter for KG? lmao. melo is a cool prospect but definitely not the kicker needed to make that trade happen. we'd either have to start Green as SF again or start Jax, neither option seems appealing.
And the second deal is just lulz. I don't want Turkoglu anywhere near the Spurs. Dude was a bum when we signed him last time, and he has an intolerable contract. We dumped RJ for Jax to clear cap room, lets not bring in Turkoglu, essentially undoing that trade.
The only one I would go for is the KG for Jax and Tiago... but even that one isn't a slam dunk. The Tim-KG "love affair" has been well cited. That aside, its really pushing our chips all in, giving up the future (both in a player like Tiago and potential cap room) for KG's last legs. It would certainly boost our les chances for this year and next, though. I would say ownership is likely hesitant to pick up KG's remaining years, but its not as if Tiago is going to come cheap, anyway.
That lineup of Parker, Manu, Kawhi, KG, and Timmy sure does have me salivating, though.
Not only the proposed trade involving Spurs, many of the trades they propose are just out of rational basketball mind. It shows how out-of-touch those so-called experts are with the real business.
If Tim would be cool with a KG trade, I'd give up Splitter-Jackson for him, despite the fact that I'm a huge Splitter fan..
Garnett is still an elite defensive player, he's a great passer and he still had an automatic mid-range J..his lack of post game and clutch scoring would be a moot point on this Spurs team..also, we wouldn't have to worry about KG performing in the playoffs, while Splitter is still a question mark in the playoffs, tbh..
These trades boggle the mind so much more than anything cooked up on ST.
If this trades goes through and everybody is healthy, I would put 50% on Spurs, and 50% on the field. But with the history, KG's non-trade clause and Spurs' management's conservative approach, the chance of its happening is slim to none.
Leonard + Splitter + Diaw > KG, and it isn't close. I would argue that Splitter's game is improving at a rapid enough rate that he is now a great fit in the Spurs frontcourt. Also, losing Leonard severely hampers the ability to defend elite wing players (Durant, Kobe, Harden) in the West or even if the Spurs made the Finals (LBJ, Carmelo) by some miracle.
Horrible and clueless traded tbh
Old KG is not worth Leonard and Splitter
And lol @ Hedo
ROFL!!!!!!
worst trade ideas ever. True Marshmallow Fluff. Very ESPN
no to Splitter and Kawhi for KG. Splitter for KG I'd probably agree to ... I think. KG probably gives the Spurs a better chance to win this year and his contract better fits with the long-term plan of the franchise than whatever Splitter will sign in the offseason. But I'm not 100% sold I'd do it; I'd have to take a closer look at KG to see if he fell of a cliff this season (glancing at his stats, it kinda looks like he did).
As for the other trade ... it's not a horrible idea but it just isn't that compelling from San Antonio's angle. Re is the best player in the trade but the Spurs have a ton of smallish shooting guards. Absorbing Hedo's $12M contract for next year isn't worth the upgrade you'd get going from Neal to Re .
the trade for hedo makes alot of sense....we got alot of guys who like to perform the disappearing act that he would fit right in
taking on hedo's contract for jax's is essentially undoing the RJ trade... banking on re to be a huge difference maker. no way
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