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    De Colo isn't ready at all for big minutes. Neal is still a terrible defender and should only get spot minutes. Diaw at the three is just no.
    And Jackson wouldn't be able to sign back with the Spurs until after a year has passed.
    Well we don't have a team of great defenders, we need to play Neal, and I'd be much happier with Neal backing up Manu at the 2 than Parker. Neal may not be great at shooting guard, but he's even worse at the point.

    Diaw at the 3 isn't perfect I agree, ideally we could get a back up 3 from the Jazz in the trade who could fill in for 10 min/game while Kawhi is resting.

    I didn't know we couldn't re sign a traded player after a year. Oh well, a loss but losing out on Jackson for Jefferson would be acceptable.

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    For the people who say Boris can't play the 3, did you see him do perfectly fine vs Lebron and Pierce?

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    Stars is what wins playoff games not Tiago Splitter ( Stephen A Smith voice ) ... Al Jefferson is a monster .

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    Do you guys remember how Jefferson killed us in the loss to Utah earlier this year? He was a damn monster!!

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    I wonder if any of you guys watched the Jazz/Spurs series.

    He was the reason why the Jazz was swept 4-0. He is one of the worse defensive BIG men in the NBA. Every team running a P&R will have an Avenue to work when Jefferson is out there.

    17ppg on 15 shots with a 51%TS ? For a guy known for his low-post scoring, that's not impressive at all. Volume scorer that doesn't draw fouls usually doesn't work. He is pretty much the Monta Ellis/Brandon Jennings of the BIG men.

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    Yeah right

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    This thread is going to be a ten pager full of nothing isn't it?
    this

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    No way they include splitter in that.IMO you can include anybody on that trade excluding tp, duncan, splitter, kawhi ant its 2 thumbs up from me

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    Has there ever been a time where any leakage of 'Spurs frontrunners to nab someone' actually ended in the Spurs getting that guy?

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    This thread is going to be a ten pager full of nothing isn't it?
    Yep.

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    Hoopsworld is quoted as saying Utah would take "Jackson,Blair and Joseph for Jefferson"....??
    I hope Utah's FO had not been watching any of the Spurs games this year..
    I'd throw in Bonner too just to make the salaries match...

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    Do you guys remember how Jefferson killed us in the loss to Utah earlier this year? He was a damn monster!!
    if we made franchise decisions based upon how a player looked against the spurs solely - Pop would have given Josh Howard a couple max deals.

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    No way they include splitter in that.IMO you can include anybody on that trade excluding tp, duncan, splitter, kawhi ant its 2 thumbs up from me
    Yeah I'm the same, but it can't include the ones you listed. There's no way Utah makes the trade without ONE of them; then again, they could want to free up some cap and also get a draft pick from us...

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    Has there ever been a time where any leakage of 'Spurs frontrunners to nab someone' actually ended in the Spurs getting that guy?
    Finley

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    I wonder if any of you guys watched the Jazz/Spurs series.

    He was the reason why the Jazz was swept 4-0. He is one of the worse defensive BIG men in the NBA. Every team running a P&R will have an Avenue to work when Jefferson is out there.

    17ppg on 15 shots with a 51%TS ? For a guy known for his low-post scoring, that's not impressive at all. Volume scorer that doesn't draw fouls usually doesn't work. He is pretty much the Monta Ellis/Brandon Jennings of the BIG men.

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    This. What most here are failing to realize is the way the spurs are currently constructed Jefferson would not only be a disaster on defense but also on offense, and probably even ESPECIALLY on offense given how reliant the spurs (esp Parker) have become on the P&R to get open shots. "Big Al" might run a handful of P&R's a game, if he's feeling especially chipper...otherwise he'd mostly sit on the low block and clog up the offensive flow and like elemento mentioned, he isn't especially efficient down there.

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    Yeah I'm the same, but it can't include the ones you listed. There's no way Utah makes the trade without ONE of them; then again, they could want to free up some cap and also get a draft pick from us...
    Green + a pick could be enough

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    Spurs were not the frontrunners. It was Phoenix first and then I think Miami.

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    Spurs were not the frontrunners. It was Phoenix first and then I think Miami.
    Depends on d source. I recall miami n spurs were mentioned as frontrunners by espn n others

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    Last time we traded for a guy whose last name was Jefferson it didn't turn out so well.

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    Add AJ to TD-Tiago twin tower is nice, but replacing it is not.

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    Green + a pick could be enough
    I'd pull that trigger in a heart beat!

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    Hoopsworld is quoted as saying Utah would take "Jackson,Blair and Joseph for Jefferson"....??
    I hope Utah's FO had not been watching any of the Spurs games this year..
    I'd throw in Bonner too just to make the salaries match...
    If that's the case, its a no-brainer. It would give a one year rental to see how Jefferson fits and if he would be worth resigning. If he's not, then I doubt the spurs risk resigning him like RJ.

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    Jefferson for Ginobili straight up worsk for me

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    This. What most here are failing to realize is the way the spurs are currently constructed Jefferson would not only be a disaster on defense but also on offense, and probably even ESPECIALLY on offense given how reliant the spurs (esp Parker) have become on the P&R to get open shots. "Big Al" might run a handful of P&R's a game, if he's feeling especially chipper...otherwise he'd mostly sit on the low block and clog up the offensive flow and like elemento mentioned, he isn't especially efficient down there.
    I think the only way that works is if we start Diaw or Baynes and then have Jefferson play with the second unit. Pop would then need to have the second unit playing a different system or maybe just running more 4 down. Against opposing benches, I think Al Jefferson's efficiency goes up. Baynes is athletic and should be quick enough to defend the pick and roll. But a Diaw/Jefferson frontcourt would also have a lot of problems so Pop would have to work the rotation so that TD/Diaw, TD/Baynes, Baynes/Diaw, Baynes/Jefferson are the only combinations that see the floor.

    While Baynes could eventually become a solid starter (for sure a great bench big), I do believe that this trade makes the Spurs worse this season. I don't think Baynes is ready yet to fill in which means we'd be rolling with either Jefferson or Diaw at the end of games. We really shouldn't forget how part of the reason the Spurs swept Utah last season was because of how terrible Jefferson's pick and roll defense was.

    This would mean that we'd most likely have a TD/Diaw or a TD/Jefferson unit closing out games. I don't think either of those pairings has a high enough ceiling to give the Spurs a puncher's chance against a team like OKC. Especially TD/Jefferson.

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