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lol thinkin he avg that on the spurs system when his not the big 3 on offense,Not willing to give up Splitter for Jefferson. If you're team is about to acquire someone averaging 17ppg and 9rpg, Splitter may damn well be in the package.
Also, I forgot to mention how valuable mid-range shooting bigs are in the playoffs.
2012- Chris Bosh
2011- Dirk Nowitzki
2010- Pau Gasol
2009- Pau Gasol
2008- Kevin Garnett
2007- Robert Horry
2006-Udonis Haslem
2005- Robert Horry
2004- Rasheed Wallace
Tim Duncan/Jefferson would compliment eachother so well, Because they can both score in and outside the paint. It'll be shots falling left and right both in and out.
Didn't Ibaka kill us on mid-range shooting as well?
lol thinkin he avg that on the spurs system when his not the big 3 on offense,
Chris Bosh, Pau Gasol, and Dirk Nowitzki say hi. None of them were amazing defenders, all of them were below average-solid. Much like Jefferson.
And all of them have defensive minds on their side, Much like Tim Duncan/Baynes.
Of course not, But fact is AJ is a much versatile scorer than Tiago (which will be much needed once TP can't set up his shooters.)
richard jefferson says hi
????? The problem was RJ couldn't get enough people to set him up, He was primary a spot up shooter/catch and shoot finisher. That's why he fit in so well with Kidd.
Al Jefferson on the other hand is a top 5 post scorer.
Chris Bosh isn't amazing on defense, but he had an amazing, youthful defensive team around him last year. He's also better than Jefferson on defense. Pau Gasol carried Kobe to championships and played fair defense along the way. Again, he was not a stiff, slow-footed big like Jefferson. Dirk Nowitzki's outstanding offensive production in his 1 successful playoff run far outclasses anything that Jefferson can produce, and his defense is about on par with Jefferson's.
Splitter is quick on his feet, and the spurs are currently a top-5 defense in the league largely due to his impact
I'd love to have big Al, but I don't think we will trade for him. We will have cap space next off-season though. If we could sign him that would be awesome.
Tiago is far from untouchable. Anyone who says Al Jeffersons pick n roll defense is bad obviously paid no attention to Splitter when he first got here. The guy was completely lost defensively. The Spurs have a solid coaching staff and pick n roll defense can be taught. Meanwhile, he's a pretty good lowpost threat with a decent midrange jumper, good rebounder and can block shots. Oh, and he's only 28. Yeah, if there is any truth to this rumor, I'm on board.
Haven't read the whole thread but after dealing with that other Jefferson, I don't want another.
I'd do it if the Spurs can acquire a replacement for Jackson..they're already shaky on the wings, losing a backup with playoff experience would hurt..
A few years ago, I would have turned this deal down, as Jefferson had severe defensive issues, along with problems as a black hole..his passing has improved to average IMO, and he has become a below average defensive player, which is a notable improvement over his previous form..
I always believe in the Spurs system, tbh..I'd be confident that Jefferson would play hard in the Spurs system..acquiring a legit post scorer would give the Spurs a dimension they haven't had since 2008, and it would give the Spurs the best big man tandem the NBA has seen in a while..
Regardless, I highly doubt the Spurs make any notable trades..
I don't believe this report. Even if the Spurs were interested in Jefferson,trading Splitter and Jackson is counterproductive. Splitter's entrance in the starting line-up and boost in minutes is a big reason why the Spurs are top 5 in defensive efficiency. And he and Duncan are finally learning how to play with one another.
Jackson for some of his shortcomings, gives the Spurs more versatility. He can match up with bigger SF's and makes an excellent small-ball PF. If he is traded, then make sure you're getting a back-up SF otherwise that means Green and Ginobili will take on that role.
If the Spurs are interested in a big-man who can contribute right away, I'd rather they look at lesser names like Dalembert or Thompson. Guys that most likely don't require trading Splitter or Jackson.
Overall, I don't think the Spurs need to make a trade. For one I don't necessarily see one out there that would without a doubt them better. Splitter has now established his role as the 2nd big on this team and Baynes was just signed and will likely be the 4th big going forward.
No Boris Diaw would take on the role of backup SF, not Green and/or Ginobili. And I won't miss Jackson one bit.
If they work together well, the Spurs frontcourt would probably rule the whole NBA. But trading SJax would make the SF position weaker. Only Leonard is not enough to defend Durant and LBJ.
My eyes would burn out of their sockets if I ever saw Derek Fisher in a Spurs uniform.
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I see a lot of posts with some variant of the comment "defense can be taught". True statement...if we had an off-season and training camp to do it. Mid-season? With practice time very limited? I don't think so.
Picking up a defensive liability now hurts any playoff run this season.
Heh. Lad has a point.
I'm not sure of that.
Jack has been real bad this year. If you are optimistic, you can say that he is coasting and his finger injury is bothering him. If you are pessimistic, you can say that, at 35 for the next playoffs, he is done. I don't know what stance to take.
I jack is traded, Spurs would likely play a lot of 3 guards lineups with Ginobili/Green playing some SF. Diaw could also play some SF against specific opponents and Spurs could sign a defensive minded SF like Dominic McGuire.
My guess for a potential trade would be:
Spurs trade Jackson+Blair+Bonner+ 2 1st round picks for Al Jefferson.
Utah trade Al Jefferson for Jackson+Bonner+ 2 1st.
A third team that will take Blair for nothing.
I'm surprised no one's mentioned Patty's ability to veto any trade. Would he even want to go to the Jazz? What can the Jazz give him that the Spurs can't? Wouldn't he want to play with Baynes and under Brown due to the fact that they're all members of the Boomers?
The whole notion of this trade is a product of Sheridan's imagination and his desire to drive traffic to his website. No need to bother with pesky details like Patty's ability to veto a trade when the whole business is pure speculation.
Why on earth would ANYONE give up two first rounders for a rental?
The Jazz don't really have a PG except for either washed up veterans or injured SGs who masquerade as PGs. Patty Mills might get more minutes there for the Jazz than he does for the Spurs.
That said, all this thing about Sheridan's scoop is based on a pack of cards with a basement full of rumors. So..
THIS
Utah got Al Jefferson is his prime with 3 years remaining for 2 late 1st round picks. He is not worth 2 first round picks + expirings as a 1/2 year rental.
A third team would have to be involved. I'm pretty sure the Jazz have a full roster.
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