THIS 100x
A stopped reading it when Sheridan said that Al Jefferson would help SA in terms of rim protection. He doesn't watch basketball at all.
Ya, but who is going to get "Big Al" to go out and set 20+ picks every night? You? Which all ties in to the hustle factor. No more fast break points from Tiago's hustling down the court, "Big Al" will be loafing up the court most nights. Transition defense will defenitely take a hit also.
Last edited by TJastal; 02-07-2013 at 10:32 AM.
Throw in Carroll for the backup SF and you got a deal.
I can't see Utah making the deal with San Antonio unless they get someone of value in return. You can toss in 1st round picks, but they will late first rounders and Utah could get a lot better than that from another other contending teams. The Spurs with absolute certainty would have to give up Splitter, since he is an RFA at the end of the year and Utah could match any offer another team would make. Most of these proposals are all for guys that have expiring contracts (i.e. Blair and Jackson), which is what Jefferson is so I don't see the point.
We could likely get him for Green + expirings + 2013 1st.
Noooooo.....nottttt jackkkkkk....
The Jazz got BIG Al with 2 late picks when he was younger and was not expiring. Why the heck should SA pay more ? There's a reason for that. He isn't that good.
I don't think Utah would do it. They like Carroll and there are some real bad blood between Utah and Jack. If Jack is traded to Utah, it should end with a buyout and so Utah won't have a replacement for Carroll.
Another issue is that it would put Spurs over the tax even if it could be solved by Spurs trading another player (Neal, Mills, De Colo, Joseph..).
That's half true. It's far from sure Spurs will still be a contender in 2019 (2019 is the last year teams are allow to trade a pick).
For example, Spurs could offer a package of 2 picks.
- Their 2013 first round pick.
- A future pick that will have the following protection: top 3 and top 15-30 protected in 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 and unprotected in 2019.
I'd trade Jackson and 2 first rounders for Jefferson, Al Jefferson
I just watching a bit of Big Al's game against the Clips on 12/30/12. His help D is awful. For the life of me I don't understand why the guy won't contest shots. Even if he just puts a hand up it would be better than what he does now. Pop would just need to give him a kick in ass. His post offense is unbelievable however. His footwork and fakes are probably the best in the league down low. A guy like Big Al would be useful when the game slows down come playoff time. Yes, the Spurs have the best record making it hard to justify any trade, but we've seen how things have played out the past 2 seasons.
Splitter can't jump and plays below the rim for a big. Jefferson would do a better job in protecting the rim. Also Jefferson is a stronger offensive player. The spurs are not winning with the current bigs as constructed. Still too soft on the interior and protecting the rim from athletic slashers.
If Jefferson is your top player then your in trouble, he isn't good enough to carry a team but as the 3rd best player he would be a great fit.
the key is really keeping tiago. a three headed rotation of duncan/jefferson/splitter is pretty damn nice. spurs need someone who can score in the low post when the guards start choking and miss their jumpshots. jefferson is as good of a post player than anyone in the league. it would be nicer than watching tiago's awkward post moves and weak hook shots. it's also very low risk if the spurs keep tiago.
I think it's a no brainer if we can keep Tiago.
I'd rather keep the two first rounders than Splitter. Those future first rounders could be lottery picks and the spurs need their top picks because it is the only way they build their team.
Wonder if Greens value is high enough to get us something nice.
Mostly thinking about Garnett tbh. Tiago + Green + Sjax + picks for Garnett + bad contract (Bass?)
Jefferson plays below the rim and is a bad defender. How do you see that as "a better job protecting the rim"? Splitter is a much better defender than Jefferson.
I was at the Spurs-Wolves (I live in MN) game last night 1 row up from floor seats. In front of me just to my right were Bill Land and Sean ******. A couple seats over was a Spurs reporter. I can't think of his name, but he is always at the Spurs games (he's essentially bald). Just to his left was a guy with charted plays and on the sheets they had the Utah Jazz logo (maybe a scout for the Jazz). I knows teams are always scouting one another for talent and matchups, but I thought it was ironic considering all of this Al Jefferson talk. Anyway, take it for what's it worth.
So you would decimate the teams' wing depth, unload a potential future all star center in his prime, AND for good measure cripple the teams' future... all for a 36 year old prehistoric artifact who is fast approaching 60,000 career nba minutes and hasn't logged an injury free season in almost a decade.. whom Tim Duncan can't stand and won't get along with? Wow... .. sounds groovy man.
Hm the plot thickens....
I'm not sure about big Al but I'm not sure about Splitter tbh.
Still would rather get Garnett.
Thing is Garnett is said to refuse to be traded if Pierce isnt traded as well.
Makes things even harder.
Bet Garnett wont be hacked in the PO. Bet Splitter will never sniff an all star game. Bet it'd give us a better shot to win now, who cares about the after Duncan, do you think Splitter who relies so much on the system and guards plays can do much once Tim and Manu are gone?
Did you deliberately leave out the one guy whom will be most likely hanging around after Tim/Manu retire? That being Parker. Splitter is proving himself a very reliable and deadly partner in the P&R game with Parker. This can become a staple of future spurs' offenses, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Splitter start increasing his range eventually to make himself even more deadly. , if Blair can do it...
No chance we give up a lottery pick for him. We will be rebuilding from scratch come 2015, Jefferson isn't worth us losing out on a high pick.
Jefferson would also give us a piece to trade come 2015. Lets say he re signs, in 2015 if we decide we aren't compe ive, Parker, Jefferson and Splitter could all get us lottery picks.
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