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    Hey guys,

    Thanks for your warm welcome to the forum! I just finished up a piece on the Al Jefferson rumors in which I break down whether or not I think he would be a good fit for the Spurs. Let me know what you think!

    http://www.caller.com/news/2013/feb/...son-fit-spurs/

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    Hey guys,

    Thanks for your warm welcome to the forum! I just finished up a piece on the Al Jefferson rumors in which I break down whether or not I think he would be a good fit for the Spurs. Let me know what you think!

    http://www.caller.com/news/2013/feb/...son-fit-spurs/
    Thanks for sharing! I must say though, as a Lakers fan, you sure do write a lot about the spurs

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    Young boy, you're good

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    Nicely written and thought out piece. I see it that way, too.

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    "According to BasketballValue.com, the Jazz give up 110.53 points per 100 possessions while Jefferson is on the floor. When he is off the floor, their defensive efficiency drops to 101.21 points per 100 possessions allowed. That means Utah's defense gets nearly 10 points per 100 possessions better when Jefferson is off of the floor"

    People wonder why the Jazz would trade him

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    Very, very good article. I was wondering when you would adress the most serious concern (the baaad D of Al) but you did at the end.

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    Great read. Thanks.

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    "According to BasketballValue.com, the Jazz give up 110.53 points per 100 possessions while Jefferson is on the floor. When he is off the floor, their defensive efficiency drops to 101.21 points per 100 possessions allowed. That means Utah's defense gets nearly 10 points per 100 possessions better when Jefferson is off of the floor"

    People wonder why would he be traded
    Bah, who cares about defense... when you got the skeeeewz of a Big Al you don't need defense.

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    Best grey poster to come on this site in quite some time.

    Quality read. Between the offense needing to slow the pace to accommodate Jefferson and the defensive metrics you cited I don't think there is anyone that can make a legit case that trading for Jefferson would be a championship move. Post-Duncan stop gap? Sure. A piece to put another trophy in the case? No way.

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    Nice article.
    I like that left side post-up analysis.


    Player G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    Al Jefferson 49 49 1615 8.0 16.8 .478 0.0 0.2 .182 2.6 3.1 .830 2.2 8.2 10.4 2.4 1.0 1.2 1.3 2.5 18.7
    Tiago Splitter 50 28 1166 6.1 10.3 .599 0.0 0.0 .000 4.0 5.3 .751 2.5 6.5 9.0 2.1 1.2 1.2 1.8 3.3 16.3

    I like stats, and looking at per36, I dont see the difference.
    Jefferson with +2.4 pts and +1.4 reb
    The big difference is the FG% 48% ss 60% in favor of Tiago.
    Tiago knows the system.

    I wouldnt trade Splitter for him.

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    Great piece!Why is this guy still grey?

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    pretty good article, thanks for sharing.

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    Good piece. I'm not thrilled with the idea of giving up Splitter for Jefferson. But a bruising post-player could be a nice addition for the playoffs when the games tend to slow down.

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    Good piece. I'm not thrilled with the idea of giving up Splitter for Jefferson. But a bruising post-player could be a nice addition for the playoffs when the games tend to slow down.
    That's a valid point; I would be all over it if the trade didn't include Splitter.

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    nice article! Caller Times has a great catch with you partner

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    Thanks for sharing! I must say though, as a Lakers fan, you sure do write a lot about the spurs
    Haha, well I was born in Corpus, which is why I write for this paper. My assignment is to cover the three Texas teams. I was a stubborn kid growing up and my family forced Cowboys/Spurs on to me so I just had to go with their rivals. First NBA memories I have is Kobe and Shaq capturing their first ring.

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    Haha, well I was born in Corpus, which is why I write for this paper. My assignment is to cover the three Texas teams. I was a stubborn kid growing up and my family forced Cowboys/Spurs on to me so I just had to go with their rivals. First NBA memories I have is Kobe and Shaq capturing their first ring.
    I like your family.

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    Good piece. I'm not thrilled with the idea of giving up Splitter for Jefferson. But a bruising post-player could be a nice addition for the playoffs when the games tend to slow down.
    I know that is a common perception, but I just looked it up and the Spurs had a pace of 94.56 in the playoffs last year compared to their 95.09 pace in the regular season. San Antonio does not strike me as a team that wants to slow things down. I think there is a difference between going through 15-20 seconds of offense to get Jefferson a good look on the block and spending five extra seconds going from semi-transition offense to half-court offense, something the Spurs did well against OKC.

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    I do too! Just not in this particular case!

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    I know that is a common perception, but I just looked it up and the Spurs had a pace of 94.56 in the playoffs last year compared to their 95.09 pace in the regular season. San Antonio does not strike me as a team that wants to slow things down. I think there is a difference between going through 15-20 seconds of offense to get Jefferson a good look on the block and spending five extra seconds going from semi-transition offense to half-court offense, something the Spurs did well against OKC.
    That's the feeling I'm getting too. Having "Big Al" lumbering up and down the court will defenitely put a damper on the spurs running game which means less easy points in transition along with more points given up in transition.. there is a reason the jazz give up 10 more points per contest when he is on the floor...

    I think in order to give up all that, plus completely overhaul the offense in order to accomodate him, his offensive efficiency better be near the top of the league (which it is nowhere near).

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    That's the feeling I'm getting too. Having "Big Al" lumbering up and down the court will defenitely put a damper on the spurs running game which means less easy points in transition along with more points given up in transition.. there is a reason the jazz give up 10 more points per contest when he is on the floor...

    I think in order to give up all that, plus completely overhaul the offense in order to accomodate him, his offensive efficiency better be near the top of the league (which it is nowhere near).
    I agree.

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    Great job, MarkTravis. I see big things in your future. Keep writing

    One note: Those basketballvalue.com stats you quoted are last year's stats. (The owner of basketballvalue.com got hired by the Sixers and he's not updating the site anymore.) This season, the Jazz allow 104.4 points per 100 possessions when Jefferson is on the court. It drops to 102.2 when he's on the bench. There's still a difference there but not as drastic as last season.

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    Great job, MarkTravis. I see big things in your future. Keep writing

    One note: Those basketballvalue.com stats you quoted are last year's stats. (The owner of basketballvalue.com got hired by the Sixers and he's not updating the site anymore.) This season, the Jazz allow 104.4 points per 100 possessions when Jefferson is on the court. It drops to 102.2 when he's on the bench. There's still a difference there but not as drastic as last season.
    I thought that were a while too, but actually the site is still being updated. What is not updated is that little dropdown box which makes it hard to find this year's stats. Here is Utah's team page for this season: http://basketballvalue.com/teamplaye...-2013&team=UTA

    Thanks for the kind words, by the way!

    EDIT: Also, thanks for letting me know which team hired him. I was able to look him up and now I understand why the site has never had any data on Grizzlie players (he was a consultant for them since 2009).

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    I thought that were a while too, but actually the site is still being updated. What is not updated is that little dropdown box which makes it hard to find this year's stats. Here is Utah's team page for this season: http://basketballvalue.com/teamplaye...-2013&team=UTA

    Thanks for the kind words, by the way!

    EDIT: Also, thanks for letting me know which team hired him. I was able to look him up and now I understand why the site has never had any data on Grizzlie players (he was a consultant for them since 2009).
    Oh damn, good find with the backdoor link

    I'm going to have to look to see why it doesn't match up with other numbers on Jefferson ...

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    Damn, good article!

    You definitely know your stuff for a Laker fan.

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