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Spurs gotta keep Splitter. He is getting better and better and he fits the system better than Al Jeff.
I think I know what happened. The default for the NBA stats cube is to show you stats from last season. You have to click the 2012-13 tab to get this year's stats (annoying, I know). Here are Jefferson's stats cube numbers for this season: http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/tea...01213;season=rOh damn, good find with the backdoor link
I'm going to have to look to see why it doesn't match up with other numbers on Jefferson ...
The ratings themselves are different between the stats cube and basketball value but the net ratings are still close to identical.
Spurs gotta keep Splitter. He is getting better and better and he fits the system better than Al Jeff.
Yeah, 82games is in that same ballpark ... so looks like your original numbers are legit. Again, nice job
Thanks!Yeah, 82games is in that same ballpark ... so looks like your original numbers are legit. Again, nice job
plus favors comes in when jefferson sits and he's a + defender"According to BasketballValue.com, the Jazz give up 110.53 points per 100 possessions while Jefferson is on the floor. When he is off the floor, their defensive efficiency drops to 101.21 points per 100 possessions allowed. That means Utah's defense gets nearly 10 points per 100 possessions better when Jefferson is off of the floor"
People wonder why the Jazz would trade him
Would anyone consider David West and Al Jefferson to have similar ability on defence? If West can be a major part of a Top 2 defence in the league, I don't see why Jefferson couldn't be.
D.West>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AJ
David West is an excellent defensive player. The two are not comparable.
The defensive rating of Al Jeff at Utah and David West at the Hornets are about the same.
Wtf? Every time I've suggested David West on this forum (whom I rate very highly, could love to get him in free agency this year) everyone shouts how he isn't a good defensive player.
I would say West is much better. To back that up here's an opinion I found on Jefferson from a year or so ago.
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakam...yant-and-more/
Long wind-up. Here are my 2011 NBA No-Defense Teams (generally trying to go C-F-F-G-G, but like the All-Star teams, maybe not quite getting there)…
—–FIRST TEAM/
* No-Defense Player of the Year: Al Jefferson, Utah. Congratulations, Al! You’ve been headed towards this award for most of your up/down career and you’ve finally gotten it.
Sure, it looks like a tough selection when the stats say that Jefferson was one of the more productive shot-blockers in the league this season (153 blks). But there’s more to defense than blocking shots, and Al didn’t do ANY of them…
Can’t tell you how many times I was watching a Utah game, saw the Jazz give up an easy bucket in the half-court, and figured out it was Jefferson who turned his head at the wrong time or just decided to leave the weak side totally unprotected.
Raw stat: He had the worst defensive differential per 100 possessions than any player in the league (among regulars, that I could find)–Utah gave up 6.8 more points per 100 possessions when Jefferson was on the court than when he was off. 113.3 when he was ON, 106.5 when he was off.
(I’ll get into Devin Harris’ stats a bit later, but keep him in mind, too.)
In the big picture, I don’t think there’s any player that 100% caused Jerry Sloan’s retirement as Jazz coach.
But if you watched Utah play last season, it’s probably not wrong to conclude that Big Al was maybe 80% of it.
Lead-footed, doesn’t rotate correctly (or sometimes, at all), looks only for the big shot block and if it’s not there he loses interest, doesn’t exactly sprint back on transition D, and often gets walloped by anybody on the post with some quickness…
Yep, if I’m Sloan and I’ve built my great career on intensity, and I’m stuck with Al Jefferson on the post, which guarantees that Utah will be a lousy defensive team, maybe I would’ve quit, too.
Defensive rating is not an end-all, be-all. It needs context. West may have had similar defensive ratings as Jefferson, but the difference between when West was on the court and when he was off the court was minimal, which suggests that the Hornets were overall a bad defensive team. The Jazz are actually a really good defensive team when Jefferson is not on the floor. West's numbers with the Pacers are elite and there are few players in the league that defend better than he does.
West is a tremendous defensive player. According to Synergy Sports Technology, West holds his man to 32% shooting on pick-and-rolls, 12% on isolations and 27% on spot-ups. The only place where he is below average is as a post-up defender. Overall, of players with at least 200 defensive possessions, West gives up the second fewest points per possession in the league.
West is sort of like Carl Landry on steroids. He's not a bad defender, but he is more size limited than Al
Fair enough, but I think it's unfair to compare West on the Pacers to Jefferson on the Jazz. What are Wests' stats on the Hornets?
Also, lets remember defensive stats always need to be taken with a pinch of salt. Didn't Bonner get put in the Top 5 defensive power forwards in a stats article a few weeks ago?
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