Sheridan: Spurs frontrunners to land Al Jefferson

[jjktkk]

Bet Garnett wont be hacked in the PO. Bet Splitter will never sniff an all star game. Bet it'd give us a better shot to win now, who cares about the after Duncan, do you think Splitter who relies so much on the system and guards plays can do much once Tim and Manu are gone?

Hard to say, considering hes usually the 4th option on offense.

[Bruno]

No chance we give up a lottery pick for him. We will be rebuilding from scratch come 2015, Jefferson isn't worth us losing out on a high pick.

I'm not saying Spurs should offer that kind of pick. My point was that the notion of Spurs not being able to offer an attractive pick isn't exactly right. Spurs could offer a nice draft pick provided their trade partner is fine with waiting few years before getting it.

More generally, the double protection system on draft picks (the pick is kept if it is too good or too bad), a system relatively new in the NBA, is a nice tool for teams to do trades.

[rascal]

I'm not saying Spurs should offer that kind of pick. My point was that the notion of Spurs not being able to offer an attractive pick isn't exactly right. Spurs could offer a nice draft pick provided their trade partner is fine with waiting few years before getting it.

More generally, the double protection system on draft picks (the pick is kept if it is too good or too bad), a system relatively new in the NBA, is a nice tool for teams to do trades.

In a few years the Spurs lottery picks are going to be more valuable to them. The Spurs build around the lottery and high picks are in their post Duncan future.

[txstr1986]

We're almost to 10 pages! Keep it going!

[Bong]

this is just my opinion: i would rather have this trade (but it would be a very long shot) http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aavr2p2

Blazers get: Al Jefferson --> the blazers are still on their rebuilding mode, IMO getting AJ would give them same play as LA (post up and mid range shot) but with an expiring contract (they can pursue other bigs at the end of the season) or if AJ would fit in their system they have cap space to give him an extension.

Jazz get: SJax, blair, cojo, bonner --> expiring contract of SJax, blair and a partially guaranteed contract of bonner will give them flexibility at the end of the season to pursue other players. blair and bonner could provide a back up for ernes canter and d. favor, bonner's 3 pt ability would add a 3pt threat and also spread the floor that would lessen the burden for their other bigs to penetrate the paint.

Spurs get: LA --> spurs are pursuing a championship, with LA skill set of post up and midrange jumper both splitter and duncan can play with him and provide additional offense if our SG 3 pts are not falling and parkers penetration is being nullified, and with his athleticism he can provide an additional defense around the rim and rebound (def/off) which is our biggest problem when we are facing the thunders and clippers, and he comes along with a 3 year contract. the only problem is we need to look for a back up SF for kawhi to provide defense on the wings, but diaws ability to switch on different position could give a quick fix and we use baynes as a back up center

[look_at_g_shred]

this is just my opinion: i would rather have this trade (but it would be a very long shot) http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aavr2p2

Blazers get: Al Jefferson --> the blazers are still on their rebuilding mode, IMO getting AJ would give them same play as LA (post up and mid range shot) but with an expiring contract (they can pursue other bigs at the end of the season) or if AJ would fit in their system they have cap space to give him an extension.

Jazz get: SJax, blair, cojo, bonner --> expiring contract of SJax, blair and a partially guaranteed contract of bonner will give them flexibility at the end of the season to pursue other players. blair and bonner could provide a back up for ernes canter and d. favor, bonner's 3 pt ability would add a 3pt threat and also spread the floor that would lessen the burden for their other bigs to penetrate the paint.

Spurs get: LA --> spurs are pursuing a championship, with LA skill set of post up and midrange jumper both splitter and duncan can play with him and provide additional offense if our SG 3 pts are not falling and parkers penetration is being nullified, and with his athleticism he can provide an additional defense around the rim and rebound (def/off) which is our biggest problem when we are facing the thunders and clippers, and he comes along with a 3 year contract. the only problem is we need to look for a back up SF for kawhi to provide defense on the wings, but diaws ability to switch on different position could give a quick fix and we use baynes as a back up center

I think I would have a heart attack and an orgasm at the same time if this trade went down. Ive always loved L.A

[Bong]

I think I would have a heart attack and an orgasm at the same time if this trade went down. Ive always loved L.A

then you should ready morphine tab, aspirin tab, nitroglycerine tab and oxygen at your side then , at least when it happens your already prepared for your impending heart attack hehehhe

[EricB]

Jefferson plays below the rim and is a bad defender. How do you see that as "a better job protecting the rim"? Splitter is a much better defender than Jefferson.

He thinks Samuel Dalembert would help.



dont shoot the messenger..

[Richie]

this is just my opinion: i would rather have this trade (but it would be a very long shot) http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aavr2p2

Blazers get: Al Jefferson --> the blazers are still on their rebuilding mode, IMO getting AJ would give them same play as LA (post up and mid range shot) but with an expiring contract (they can pursue other bigs at the end of the season) or if AJ would fit in their system they have cap space to give him an extension.

Jazz get: SJax, blair, cojo, bonner --> expiring contract of SJax, blair and a partially guaranteed contract of bonner will give them flexibility at the end of the season to pursue other players. blair and bonner could provide a back up for ernes canter and d. favor, bonner's 3 pt ability would add a 3pt threat and also spread the floor that would lessen the burden for their other bigs to penetrate the paint.

Spurs get: LA --> spurs are pursuing a championship, with LA skill set of post up and midrange jumper both splitter and duncan can play with him and provide additional offense if our SG 3 pts are not falling and parkers penetration is being nullified, and with his athleticism he can provide an additional defense around the rim and rebound (def/off) which is our biggest problem when we are facing the thunders and clippers, and he comes along with a 3 year contract. the only problem is we need to look for a back up SF for kawhi to provide defense on the wings, but diaws ability to switch on different position could give a quick fix and we use baynes as a back up center

Blazers could get WAY more for Aldridge than Jefferson, and the Jazz would want more than our trash.

In fact, if the Blazers are willing to do this trade, why wouldn't the Jazz just trade Al Jeff straight up for LA?

[TJastal]

Blazers could get WAY more for Aldridge than Jefferson, and the Jazz would want more than our trash.

In fact, if the Blazers are willing to do this trade, why wouldn't the Jazz just trade Al Jeff straight up for LA?

Because of course every team wants to do whatever possible to help out the spurs, like.. duh.

[ManuTastic]

This whole idea hinges on Al Jefferson being a good defender. He's not. Full stop.
/EndThread

[Budkin]

This whole idea hinges on Al Jefferson being a good defender. He's not. Full stop.
/EndThread

He can learn defense. He WILL learn defense under Pop.

[PingPong]

He can learn defense. He WILL learn defense under Pop.

He can improve and be a great shot blocker, but no way Pop will make his slow legs go faster.

[jimbo]

In a few years the Spurs lottery picks are going to be more valuable to them. The Spurs build around the lottery and high picks are in their post Duncan future.

Not unless Parker is dealt out too. Without Manu/Tim this is still a fringe playoff team, not a lottery team. Tony's too good for that. I foresee a lot of 1st round exits or no mans land picks unless the FO blows the team up.

[Richie]

For everyone saying how bad Jefferson is on defence, if we keep Splitter (i.e. give up Green for him) and he takes Diaws + Bonner/Blair minutes, are we really going to be much worse defensively?

Talking playoffs, if Kawhi and Manu are playing big minutes we won't be missing Jax or Green THAT much. We would need a swingman back from the Jazz or a third team though.

[BatManu20]

This whole idea hinges on Al Jefferson being a good defender. He's not. Full stop.
/EndThread

You're right, he's not a great defender, but he's not nearly as bad as people on this board are making him sound. He's still a decent post defender and is averaging 1.1 blocks this season. That's more than Garnett. He's long and athletic and alters a lot of shots when he wants to. It's more about effort with Jefferson, something you can change.

His only real weakness is PnR defense, but I think under Pop he would really improve in this department. I think Pop would MAKE him put in a lot of effort on the defensive side, and that combined with playing alongside Duncan would really help him. An offensively, he's arguably the best big man in the game on that side of the ball. His back to the basket game is 2nd to no other Centers imo, and he can shoot the J consistently. I, for one, hope we really pull this off. I don't think we're good enough to win a championship with our roster as is right now and this is the year we have to go all in.

[Beaverfuzz]

Al Jefferson, that is all.

[BatManu20]

Random post but I always knew I liked Neil Everett. Giving the Spurs some props for once during last night's highlights.

[Spurs_Be_Beastin']

al jefferson sucks and would not help the spurs at all.
that is all.

[FYM]

this is just my opinion: i would rather have this trade (but it would be a very long shot) http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aavr2p2

Blazers get: Al Jefferson --> the blazers are still on their rebuilding mode, IMO getting AJ would give them same play as LA (post up and mid range shot) but with an expiring contract (they can pursue other bigs at the end of the season) or if AJ would fit in their system they have cap space to give him an extension.

Jazz get: SJax, blair, cojo, bonner --> expiring contract of SJax, blair and a partially guaranteed contract of bonner will give them flexibility at the end of the season to pursue other players. blair and bonner could provide a back up for ernes canter and d. favor, bonner's 3 pt ability would add a 3pt threat and also spread the floor that would lessen the burden for their other bigs to penetrate the paint.

Spurs get: LA --> spurs are pursuing a championship, with LA skill set of post up and midrange jumper both splitter and duncan can play with him and provide additional offense if our SG 3 pts are not falling and parkers penetration is being nullified, and with his athleticism he can provide an additional defense around the rim and rebound (def/off) which is our biggest problem when we are facing the thunders and clippers, and he comes along with a 3 year contract. the only problem is we need to look for a back up SF for kawhi to provide defense on the wings, but diaws ability to switch on different position could give a quick fix and we use baynes as a back up center

So the jazz give the spurs al for what ? Ah yes dead weight jax, Dejuan no knee Blair, cojo (who the he is?) and Matt the choker bonner. spurs fans crack me up tbh. You guys are priceless, eh jazz give me your best player for a pile trash...yeah thanks in advance

[Big P]

this is just my opinion: i would rather have this trade (but it would be a very long shot) http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aavr2p2

Blazers get: Al Jefferson --> the blazers are still on their rebuilding mode, IMO getting AJ would give them same play as LA (post up and mid range shot) but with an expiring contract (they can pursue other bigs at the end of the season) or if AJ would fit in their system they have cap space to give him an extension.

Jazz get: SJax, blair, cojo, bonner --> expiring contract of SJax, blair and a partially guaranteed contract of bonner will give them flexibility at the end of the season to pursue other players. blair and bonner could provide a back up for ernes canter and d. favor, bonner's 3 pt ability would add a 3pt threat and also spread the floor that would lessen the burden for their other bigs to penetrate the paint.

Spurs get: LA --> spurs are pursuing a championship, with LA skill set of post up and midrange jumper both splitter and duncan can play with him and provide additional offense if our SG 3 pts are not falling and parkers penetration is being nullified, and with his athleticism he can provide an additional defense around the rim and rebound (def/off) which is our biggest problem when we are facing the thunders and clippers, and he comes along with a 3 year contract. the only problem is we need to look for a back up SF for kawhi to provide defense on the wings, but diaws ability to switch on different position could give a quick fix and we use baynes as a back up center

Your screen name is quite fitting....maybe you were hitting it when you thought this one up?

[McGusto55]

Not jax

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Let's get this to 20 pages.

[scanry]

Tim Duncan will not let S Jax get away again. He was upset the first time around and I'm pretty sure Pop & Buford know that. I say give him $9 over 2 years in the offseason.

[lmbebo]

How about this trade?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c5fd5v4

:P