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Don't really start following college ball until march, so I have no sense as to the quality of players out there. Even less so with the international players. is this generally considered to be a weak draft?
Good size for a shooting guard, good defender, finishes and impressive growth rate. Hustles...
What really caught my eye was his effort...
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Don't really start following college ball until march, so I have no sense as to the quality of players out there. Even less so with the international players. is this generally considered to be a weak draft?
Not a weak draft just no super star type of players but a lot of good players.
I thought this may interest some here.
http://shutupandjam.net/draft-rankings/
Draft rankings, sorted by predicted career +/- impact using a combination of RAPM and SPM.
Rankings will get better with time(More data, and Author notes it works better with measurements, which are not yet available)
Hey, if we are posting links
http://hoopsanalyst.com/blog/?p=965
Hoops analyst is an interesting perspective
Now that we have Baynes do you think we will not take a big in the first round and what positions would you take?....Yes understanding the best player on your board etc..
We have so many guards, including Hanga who looks promising. Even with Baynes, we'll have to replace Jackson, Duncan, Diaw, Bonner and Blair sooner than any other positions. This is a good draft for Bigs. I would focus on SF, PF or C.
If Bertans (SF) is progressing, I'd like to draft Gorgui Dieng, 6' 11" C with 7' 6" wingspan who focuses on defense (and blocks and rebounds well) and runs the pick n roll well... from draft express: "Dieng is at his best offensively in the pick-and-roll game, where his great size and excellent mobility often allow him to get open with a head of steam going to the basket. He finishes with authority and is continually improving here, something that will certainly be attractive projecting to the highly pick-and-roll oriented NBA." He should be able to play next to Baynes for a bigman rotation of Splitter, Baynes, Dieng once Duncan retires.
If we could draft Dieng, and bring in Joe Ingles (SF), I think that hits our main needs
Hoopsworld have Dieng going 28 in latest mock. In the small sample I've seen he looked very good. If Louisville get it together he could go much higher.
Bleacher Report just did a mock and has Withey falling all the way to us, I was shocked. Not because they had him on the Spurs but that they think he'll last that long. I'm no draft pundit or even a die hard college fan, but there's no way he lasts that long, is there?
this isn't a draft with a few superstars and then nothing else, this is a draft with a lot of good players close to each other in value which can easily lead to someone being taken early or falling a lot.
Draftexpress has Withey and Dieng going 27 and 28 respectively
No chance Dieng is on the board when we draft. After we've seen players like Hibbert, Jordan, Ibaka etc... turn in to very useful players, big athletic shot blockers will be going much higher even if they aren't the most skilled players.
A lot of bigs in this draft plus he is broke his wrist so that might make him drop a few.
my 3 guys are having very good years.....Dieng, Muscala, and Ennis.
All of the sudden, it doesn't seem so unrealistic that the Spurs would get the Clippers' second-rounder next season.
??? What do you mean?
They owe the Spurs their second-rounder if they finish with a top-five record in 2014. That deal was made more than two years ago, when the Clippers were in contention for the first-overall selection. At the time, it seemed like a throwaway deal just so the Theo Ratliff salary dump would be legal according to the CBA. Now, it might actually net something.
Wasn't Theo Ratliff sent to the Bobcats for a 2016 second round pick?
Sorry, you're right. The Clipper's pick come via New Orleans from the Curtis Jerrels trade. That pick is 2014, though.
The Ratliff pick is in 2016 with the same protection but for Charlotte, so let's hope the Bobcats get good by then.
Victor Oladipo might be my favorite prospect in the entire draft. Along with Marcus Smart.
Feb 7 Wages of Wins draft Preview: http://wagesofwins.com/2013/02/07/he...caa-prospects/
Over the last few years, the guys the Spurs have picked have been close to the top of the available players in the Wages of wins draft model.
Going through, the top 100 players(By DX) who are comfortably outperforming their rank based on WP ranking are
Oladipo(Likely out of our draft range)
Kelly Olynyk(Possibly out of our range)
Mike Muscala(Projected as being #30 pick, so somewhat likely to be available)
Arsalan Kazemi(2nd round option)
Reggie Bullock(projected 51 DX)
Cory Jefferson(2nd)
Trevor Mbakwe(2nd)
Richard Howell(2nd)
Doug McDermott(2nd)
Kyle Anderson (2nd)
PJ Hairston (2nd)
I don't watch College Basketball(35 second shot clock is icky) but that is one starting list of domestic spurs options, Given they apparently have some ability from a scouting perspective and one of the Stats systems that seems to approximate past decision making likes them.
Gorgui Dieng didn't show up on that guy's list so I ran his numbers... 10.98 WS40 would rank him #12. We may have to trade up a few spots to get him, but he'd be worth it IMO (I'd hate to see him drafted 1 spot above us like Batum)
im sticking with my 3 guys
F/C Gorgui Dieng
F/C Mike Muscala
G/F James Ennis
Gorgui Dieng Looked great in the youtube videos
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