To give up draft picks and expirings for Jefferson would be the best trade the Spurs have made since.....well the previous Jefferson trade.
It's too good to be true, so it probably isn't, but if they can still keep Splitter and get Jefferson that would be a championship trade.
True, I just don't think it's realistically possible from a value standpoint to net Jefferson without giving up Splitter. That be great if they could though. Maybe a Jackson, Bonner, Cory Joseph and a 1st or two 1sts could get it done. (Only if Dennis Lindsey is really high on Cory Joseph, and he realistically could be. Joseph has a skill-set that has potential written all over it. Not to mention Jazz's weakest position is PG and the future at that position is pretty damn foggy. )
At PF/C:
I would go with a 3 PF/C rotation of Duncan/Al/Splitter. Duncan/Splitter could keep starting but Al would play about 30mpg from the bench. Duncan's minutes would be reduced a little to preserve him. Diaw would play 10/15mpg paired with Duncan or Al.
At SF:
I would give Kawhi more minutes. To back him up, I would go with Manu/Green with Spurs playing a 3 guards lineup. Playing a 3 guards lineup would be easier if Spurs can keep Neal and one of De Colo or Mills. I'm not sold at all with Diaw at SF on a regular basis.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...rites-over-okc
Not that I consider BR legitimate or anything.. but an interesting read none-the-less.
This. If we get the opportunity, we just can't pass it up. I love Jack too, but unfortunately he looks like a scrub..
I am. What has big Al ever really accomplished? A: . He's a fine player, but he's not known for his infallibility.
Splitter has been a MVP at the highest level of Eurobasket and has begun to figure out the NBA game/get the respect of the refs.
Who to pick...
hmmmmmm....
That is why trading Splitter now makes sense. The Spurs are going to over pay for this guy.
I have no problem with trading Splitter. Just not for ing Al Jefferson.
As crazy as it might sound, if that's the line up we have, i won't be afraid to pull TD off the bench -Big Al starts alongside Splitter basically replacing TD's production offensively, so he can lead the bench scoring alongside Manu, of if Manu is brought into starter, Neal will have plenty of open looks with TD banging down low against opponent bench scrub bigmen. Ofcourse, TD will still play as the closer, alongside whoever playing good (Big Al/Splitter/small ball PF).
I think Diaw can be effective at SF, as long his minute & match up is monitored, Kawhi HAS to get more minutes though, around 35 minutes should be okay, he's young.
By getting Big Al, basically the Spurs must forget of matching up opponents small ball & have to try to force their advantage in size in the middle.
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I truly believe that the whole summer of 2013 will come down to DH. If he leaves LA, what options will he have? Cavs, Mavs, Spurs, Hawks? Who else will be able to give him the max with a decent roster? If he won't leave LA, who are the best available players? Smith, Kaman, Jefferson, Millsap? Of course I would choose Smith, but if he stays with Atlanta, Al is the obvious player. We won't win our fifth ring with the current roster, I thing we can assume this. We need to make a move, and Jax is the most expandable player. I Love him too, I remember game six, and yes, we would need another long SF with range. But, I would easily give him up to get the most skilled post player in the NBA... We saw who Diaw collapsed in the WCF and who tired Timmy was in the second halves. I really think we are just two puzzles away from the fifth. A backup PG, and someone who can bang down in the low post, and scoring at will down there. It would also save up Tim's body and knees.
If we can get Jefferson without giving up Splitter, it is a no-brainer.
I suppose the Spurs would also be front runners for Jefferson's services when he's a free agent this summer. Given his peronality i think he'd welcome the chance to play with TD. If I'm not mistaken, acquiring him now really means acquiring his Bird rights which impacts HOW the Spurs can resign him this summer as oppose to acquiring him in the open market.
I see a trade for Jefferson now as a move for the future post-TD, and really like the idea of a front court of KL, Al, and Splitter. I think a trade can happen without giving up Splitter. Jazzfan scoffs at the idea of not getting a great player in return given Al's production this year, but at this point he's really just an expiring contract given the Jazzs desire to feature Favors and Kantor. So if your the Jazz youre really giving up additional cap saving to the Spurs (difference btw Jax and Al contracts) minus what you get back in parts. They really have little leverage to hold out for something amazing on return.
nearly 20 and 10 on a fg% of .5 against our Spurs last year, in the playoffs.
Spanish league MVP
I think Al would be a great fit here. Sure he isn't exactly the p&r player we are used to but running some different offense could be a good thing. He can create and score himself and put up 30 pts if he needs to. Letting him play in the post and Duncan move strictly to that Robinson "5" role that David played the latter years of his career could be both beneficial to the team and especially to Tim in the long run. Playing Duncan next to Splitter doesn't necessarily let Duncan do that because he is still relied upon to score and create offense because Tiago can't do that for himself. Tiago has to be spoon fed at the rim. Defensively, I don't think they can be as solid as Tim/Tiago but I think they can still be a pretty dang good combination. Al could definitely help on the glass. I just think having somebody else other than Tony to be able to rely on when it matters would be huge for the Spurs. Manu and Duncan, while still our most valuable pieces just can't do it anymore at all times. and sorry, but In not giving the ball to Tiago with the game on the line.
If the Spurs could somehow pull off this trade while keeping Tiago then it would definitely make for the sickest front court in the NBA. Now that would be something. Just not sure what kind of Deal Al is looking for this summer.
And people need to stop acting like the Spurs are going to attract some big name FA here with some cap space. Not gunna happen.
He just turned 28 last month. This is literally his LAST chance to cash out with a big contract. That's why I'm strictly viewing this as a rental. He left money on the table when he signed his first post-rookie contract in Minnesota. Doubt he does so again.
SPURS trade for him, then flip him into some assets in a sign and trade deal...spurs should pull it, if they plan on rebuilding if the choke in the playoffs continue with the current roster this season
One year rental
Also@ all these spurs fans clamoring for this lumbering albatross of fail.
He may be only 28, but his numbers peaked about 5 years ago and have been in slow decline since. Never made an all-star team. Post season resume includes two 1st round playoff exits in 9 years. Defensively, the guy is a complete and utter joke. He really is alone at the top of the heap as far as epitomizing laziness and hollow stats. Doesn't run the floor, won't fit into the spurs' offense especially well, since all he has is a weak pick & pop. I'd even rather the spurs tried to pry away Amare Stoudemire, at least he would run the P&R consistently in the offense and his pick and pop is 10X better than Jefferson's.
People don't realize how much AJ would hurt Parker/offense/cap space AND our D...
You lost all credit when you said you'd take Amare over Al. His contract is the definition of albatross at over $20M for the next three years and one injury away from retirement. You also misrepresented Al. Yes, he's a bad (slow) defender in the pick-and-roll. But, he's an efficient offensive player and he's been consistent throughout his career in every category, even ticking up in assists each season. The characterization that he peaked doesn't bear out statistically.One year rental
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He may be only 28, but his numbers peaked about 5 years ago and have been in slow decline since. Never made an all-star team. Post season resume includes two 1st round playoff exits in 9 years. Defensively, the guy is a complete and utter joke. He really is alone at the top of the heap as far as epitomizing laziness and hollow stats. Doesn't run the floor, won't fit into the spurs' offense especially well, since all he has is a weak pick & pop. I'd even rather the spurs tried to pry away Amare Stoudemire, at least he would run the P&R consistently in the offense and his pick and pop is 10X better than Jefferson's.
I'm not necessarily advocating for Al, but you should at least be honest about what he is and realize that you're WAY off if you think Amare is better.
at people bashing big Al. He's a bigger version of ZBo, a player people here are constantly salivating over.
Any news about Al Jeff? Is the Spurs interest for real?
Anyone watching this Nets game should realise how good a deal this could be for us. If we replace one of Diaw/Bonner/Blair in the rotation with Al Jefferson we would lose little to nothing in defence but gain so much offensively
The way our bigs are playing this trade seems reasonable now
we need him in this team. he has so many weapons on offense.
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