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    The Secretary of State has a direct responsibility of embassies.
    it's a dangerous world. maybe the House shouldn't have cut the appropriation for State.

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    it's a dangerous world. maybe the House shouldn't have cut the appropriation for State.
    LOL...

    That's not why this happened.

    Are you advocating for a larger government?

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    I'm saying it's a dangerous world, and US diplomats live in it. Cutting their funds for security might not have been the smartest thing to do.

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    Don't you believe in keeping America strong?

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    I'm saying it's a dangerous world, and US diplomats live in it. Cutting their funds for security might not have been the smartest thing to do.
    Is that where the blame was diverted to?

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    Apparently, the GOP controlled House thought we could do it on the cheap -- like in Iraq, for example . . .

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    Is that where the blame was diverted to?
    there's plenty to go around, but you, clearly, are a one way street.

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    all blame to the blue, all credit to the red. you're so simple.

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    there's plenty to go around, but you, clearly, are a one way street.
    Maybe the allocation of protection could have been better divided.

    That was long ago, I don't recall the details, but I do know that requests from the embassy were denied. How can people be so ignorant not to recognize the local threat? Because of the initial 112 cruise missiles we sent and following support, half of Libya will hate us for the rest of their lives.

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    it's a dangerous world. maybe the House shouldn't have cut the appropriation for State.
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    The action in Libya was harebrained, and Hilary had something to do with it, to be sure. It's to Obama's credit that he didn't follow her advice in Syria, but i have a feeling you might disagree . . .

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    So Monkeyboy14 wants Obama to be impeached because they got an 8-hour window and wasted it.

    On the other hand,

    May 1 2001: CIA says that a terrorist group in the U.S. was planning an attack.
    June 22 2001: CIA warns that this attack was "imminent."
    June 29 2001: CIA warns of near-term attacks with "dramatic consequences" including major casualties
    July 1 2001: A briefing says that the terrorist attack had been delayed but "will occur soon."
    July 24 2001: The president is told again that the attack had been delayed but would occur within months
    Aug. 6 2001: Bush receives a brief led "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S., in reply to which Bush tells the

    How about Reagan and the Iran-Contra affair, where the then Defense Secretary's notes indicate that Reagan was aware of hostage transfers with Iran, as well as the sale of Hawk and TOW missiles? He actually came out and admitted responsibility for it.

    If you want to take action against US presidents and/or their administrations for incompetence, Obama's Benghazi episode needs to get into line; there's a long and rich history of incompetence and risk-taking by US administrations. Or did you not see any of these mentioned on Fox News?

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    I'm trying to get a line on what people think should have been done that wasn't. The most glaring mistake I see was having the Ambassador stay at the consulate overnight if the situation in the country was that bad.
    Why didn't he just leave on his own before if he thought it was that bad?

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    So what are you trying to say exactly? The obama administration did nothing wrong? and we are all just overreacting?
    Now you got it. The urgency wasn't there if it was Stevens would have left. It is nothing more than a political smear move from the right just before the election.

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    the old white Confederate lesbian obstructing

    Lindsey Graham To Place Hold On National Security Nominees Over Benghazi Attacks

    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) is threatening to place a hold on key administration national security nominations unless President Obama explains how the White House reacted to the Benghazi attacks and who “changed” the talking points used by U.N. ambassador Susan Rice during back-to-back appearances on the Sunday political talk shows in September.


    http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/02/10/1567291/lindsey-graham-to-place-hold-on-national-security-nominees-over-benghazi-attacks/
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 02-10-2013 at 11:46 AM.

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    So Monkeyboy14 wants Obama to be impeached because they got an 8-hour window and wasted it.

    On the other hand,

    May 1 2001: CIA says that a terrorist group in the U.S. was planning an attack.
    June 22 2001: CIA warns that this attack was "imminent."
    June 29 2001: CIA warns of near-term attacks with "dramatic consequences" including major casualties
    July 1 2001: A briefing says that the terrorist attack had been delayed but "will occur soon."
    July 24 2001: The president is told again that the attack had been delayed but would occur within months
    Aug. 6 2001: Bush receives a brief led "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S., in reply to which Bush tells the

    How about Reagan and the Iran-Contra affair, where the then Defense Secretary's notes indicate that Reagan was aware of hostage transfers with Iran, as well as the sale of Hawk and TOW missiles? He actually came out and admitted responsibility for it.

    If you want to take action against US presidents and/or their administrations for incompetence, Obama's Benghazi episode needs to get into line; there's a long and rich history of incompetence and risk-taking by US administrations. Or did you not see any of these mentioned on Fox News?
    In one of those July briefings (I don't know which one...it was one that occurred at the ranch in Texas) Bush was specifically told by the CIA briefers that the attack would likely come by airplanes. His response to them was..."okay, now you've covered your ass by telling me. Now I know." About the only thing he could have done then would have been to initiate the kind of security measures at airports, etc. that were eventually put in place after the attacks. Thing is, had he tried to do that, all of us (probably me included) would have raised holy about our civil liberties being attacked and government intruding on our persons, as well as making it take so much longer to get on an airplane.

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    In one of those July briefings (I don't know which one...it was one that occurred at the ranch in Texas) Bush was specifically told by the CIA briefers that the attack would likely come by airplanes. His response to them was..."okay, now you've covered your ass by telling me. Now I know." About the only thing he could have done then would have been to initiate the kind of security measures at airports, etc. that were eventually put in place after the attacks. Thing is, had he tried to do that, all of us (probably me included) would have raised holy about our civil liberties being attacked and government intruding on our persons, as well as making it take so much longer to get on an airplane.
    He also could have looked into the middle easternerns who went to flight school and said, "I don't wanna learn how to take off or land, just how to maneuver the plane when it's in the air!"

    And no, added airport security isn't all he could have done. He could have had armed US marshalls on every flight, or issued warnings to airlines about possible imminent hijackings. Defending Bush's actions leading up to 9/11 is a joke, but like I said, none of them gave grounds for impeachment.

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    He also could have looked into the middle easternerns who went to flight school and said, "I don't wanna learn how to take off or land, just how to maneuver the plane when it's in the air!"

    And no, added airport security isn't all he could have done. He could have had armed US marshalls on every flight, or issued warnings to airlines about possible imminent hijackings. Defending Bush's actions leading up to 9/11 is a joke, but like I said, none of them gave grounds for impeachment.
    Dear god I didn't mean to defend Bush's actions. I have always been furious with him for pretending like it was somebody else's fault. You bring up some good ideas about other things he could have done, especially the marshals. I was merely trying to point out that it would have been politically difficult for any president to get through the kind of security measures we currently have in the absence of an attack like that.

    I also agree that neither this nor Benghazi is grounds for impeachment.

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    Someone somewhere in America will die today! Now that Obama has been warned, he should be impeached if he doesn't prevent it!

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    Its just crazy how he isn't taking any heat on benghazi

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    Someone somewhere in America will die today! Now that Obama has been warned, he should be impeached if he doesn't prevent it!
    Thanks Obama!

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    You guys are pathetic

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    You guys are pathetic
    Only when they're hosting you by your own pe ... repeatedly.

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    You guys are pathetic
    This is what they do... They're pathetic. rule one with trolls. Let them be. They purposefully don't have a personal opinion, or it's vague at best.

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