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No real news other than he's fighting with his coach again. I just decided to bump the thread so everyone knows its here.
Well if the mindset is to take a guy who's a great inside scorer with the ability to rebound in traffic and about why he's not better at shooting from 25 feet away, it's just as well the Spurs have guys like Bonner and Finley.
No real news other than he's fighting with his coach again. I just decided to bump the thread so everyone knows its here.
Hawks taking trade offers for forward Smith
David Aldridge, TNT analyst
Posted Feb 8, 2013 4:45 PM
The Atlanta Hawks are entertaining trade offers around the league for forward Josh Smith, but have yet to decide whether they will deal the ninth-year forward, according to league sources.
The Hawks met with Smith's representatives this week, at which point the team indicated it was not willing to give Smith a max contract after this season, according to a source.
Smith, who will be an unrestricted free agent this summer, told the Atlanta Journal-Cons ution late last month that he believes he's a max player, which would mean he'd be in line for a five-year deal worth around $94 million from Atlanta.
But the Hawks, which expect to be major players next summer in free agency or through trades, do not want to tie up that kind of money going forward.
http://www.nba.com/2013/news/02/08/j...s=iref:nbahpts
Chris Broussard @Chris_Broussard Nets going hard after Josh Smith, sources say. While they've discussed a trade for Ben Gordon, getting Josh is a bigger priority.
Like that's going to happen. They have nothing to offer.
But that does bring up an interesting question: Who wins this bidding? Who's even in the running?
No one. With the new financial constraints no one is giving him the max contract he wants...which means no one will give up any sort of real assets to acquire him.
It sucks for Atlanta that Smith's deal didn't expire last season. Then they totally could have tricked the Nets into giving up that lottery pick.
FWIW:
The Spurs are among the teams with interest in Hawks forward Josh Smith, a source told Yahoo! Sports. Keep in mind, Hawks general manager Danny Ferry was previously with the Spurs.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--nb...162422963.html
Ferry using the Spurs to sweeten potential deals for Smoove. Good move.
I would not be in favor of sending Jack/Tiago to ATL for a 3 month rental of Josh. He's a low IQ player with huge lockerrom issues. Pass.
I would only make a trade like that if it were SJax + either Mills, CJoseph, or De Colo and a pick. I would not give up Splitter in a JSmith trade.
Why not? They'll never re-sign both of them this summer. That would put them $10M over the tax, at least. There is no way in the Spurs will ever do that.
If you view Smith as anything other than a rental, you almost HAVE to send Tiago out in trade.
Strange. When I do projections for next year salaries, I have Spurs being able to keep Smith, Splitter and Ginobili and being able to stay below the tax.
It's not too soon to need to be thinking about Kawhi's contract the following year. I'm sure we could front-load a contract for Ginobili to earn less his last season or two, but there's no guarantee Smith would go for such a deal. Beyond that, the price of retaining Splitter is so tied to what looks to be acute market demand that projecting a salary for him would seem to be tricky business... What sort of rubric are you using on Splitter's value to base your projection on, if you don't mind my asking?
Kawhi new contract would start in 2015-2016 and not the following year. Spurs don't have a single player under contract in 2015-2016.
In the worst case scenario salary-wise (Diaw and Mills staying, De Colo and Joseph not included in a Smith trade, Spurs not wanting to go over the the tax threshold...), Spurs would have $34M to split between Smith, Splitter and Ginobili. If you put Smith new contract starting at $12M/$14M, Splitter at $10M/$12M and Ginobili at $8M/$10M, the $34M should be enough to keep all 3.
If I understand correctly, if Leonard and/or Joseph were to get extensions after next season, their cap numbers wouldn't change for that season (2014-2015). So both Ginobili and Duncan (and Parker if he regresses a lot and the Spurs waive him) could be off the books by the time the extensions take effect.
So Leonard, Splitter and Smith (and Parker if he's not cut or traded) would be the large contracts going into the 2014-2015 season. Joseph and Green are other players who could have re-signed to mid-sized deals, and Baynes and De Colo would either have been re-signed the prior off-season or have already left.
EDIT: Way too slow on my part. Bruno beat me by five mintues.
Thanks for the breakdown, Bruno, Chinook.
Yeah..not going to happen.
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