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Nets really have a lot of money. Next year they'll be paying Joe Johnson 21,5 M, Williams 18,5 M, Lopez 14,7 M, Humphries, 12 M and Wallace 10 M. Also lol at them paying amnestied Travis Outlaw 4 M for the next 3 years.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...icle-1.1262038
Josh Smith, Ben Gordon unlikely to end up with Brooklyn Nets, who shift focus on Utah Jazz forward Paul Millsap
The Nets offered Kris Humphries and MarShon Brooks for Smith, but the Hawks are seeking a better package for one of their most popular players.
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Smith is one of the top players on the trading block because he wants a max-salary contract this coming summer when he becomes a free agent. After talking to the Hawks, the Nets don't believe they have the assets needed to get Smith. The Nets offered Kris Humphries and MarShon Brooks, but the Hawks are seeking a better package for an Atlanta product and one of their most popular players.
Nets really have a lot of money. Next year they'll be paying Joe Johnson 21,5 M, Williams 18,5 M, Lopez 14,7 M, Humphries, 12 M and Wallace 10 M. Also lol at them paying amnestied Travis Outlaw 4 M for the next 3 years.
Well said, sir. My God, I can't believe I'm saying this, but Marion would actually be the perfect addition if you're going to trade at this point in the season. Adding Josh Smith is a fantasy basketball type of move instead of reality.
Defense win NBA championships! Offense wins regular season championships! Josh Smith plays great defense!
Where do you guys get the "Josh Smith doesn't play defense or Al Jefferson is a better player" nonsense from? If we knew we could resign him, I'd let Splitter go in a heartbeat! Basketball is still a business and the Spurs should be in the business of winning. Smith provides that now and for the future.
The Spurs have players like Blair, Mills, Jacksons contract, CoJo, Bonner, NDC, Diaw, Neal (?), Green (?)...I mean, not including the Big 3 +Kiwi +Tiago. These players can play, regardless of what the spurs fans say.
Theres gotta be a way of getting better without trading your starters, dont tell me no teams needs any of these players?
Maybe a 3 team trade, like in many trade scenarios, where the Spurs trade 4 players and get 1.
I see your point, but Smith for Tiago...not good enough...IMO.
I just hope the Spurs know what they are doing...dont surprise me with: We didnt trade for anybody...Tiago is leaving...we have money to spend but there are no good players available...Im assuming that wont happen....right?
Oh yes because Josh Smith led Hawks teams are the epitome of winning playoff basketball.
Fact is he can't win in the playoffs in the weaker conference. He's a 3rd or 4th option kin did player and you don't pay that guy max dollars. Max dollars are for guys who make their teams contenders
Spurs Nation Ariticle: Why Josh Smith makes no sense for Spurs
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...nse-for-spurs/
If the front office isn't willing to give smoove the contract he wants it makes very little sense to deal for him unless they really want to push their chips all in, or were looking to make a run at Dwight
Here's an article from ESPN Insider...
FEB 13
2:07
PM ET
By Joe Kaiser | ESPN.com
While San Antonio has more to offer Atlanta in a trade for Josh Smith than a team like Brooklyn, there are numerous reasons to believe a deal involving Smith and the Spurs is unlikely.
Spurs beat writer Jeff McDonald of the San Antonio Express-News details his top three in a story today:
- The Hawks are primarily interested in acquiring picks. Lottery picks.
- The Spurs have little to no interest in adding big payroll after this season.
- Leonard is borderline untouchable at this point.
All great points by McDonald, and we touched on some of them yesterday when word of the Spurs' interest in Smith was first reported by Marc J. Spears of Yahoo! Sports. In our estimation, the biggest issue here is Leonard. If San Antonio really thinks so highly of him that they'd be unwilling to move the second-year pro for a borderline star in Josh Smith, than this deal probably doesn't happen.
"Look, you never say never about trading anybody (except maybe Tim Duncan)," McDonald writes. "But thanks to the rookie scale contract system, the Spurs have Leonard — aka “Bruce Bowen with skills” — for two more seasons at a total of $3.1 million. That’s chump change, and quite a value for a player who is becoming increasingly important to what the Spurs do at both ends of the floor. For the budget-conscious Spurs, a player so vastly over-performing his contract is worth holding onto for dear life."
I really can't see the Spurs giving up Kawhi, they've been after a SF like him for years. Not only that but the salaries don't match up between Kawhi, Splitter and Smith. Jack must be inserted for everything to work out, if they trade Kawhi and Jack that leaves 0 SF's on the roster. Even if they do find a way to keep Jack, it's still Jack starting and he's been playing very poorly this whole season.
According to chad ford, the humpries brooks is the best deal they're being offered. I'd imagine the spurs could put together a better deal that didn't involve TS or KL. Some combo of Neal Blair jax picks and oversea stashes sounds more appealing then that nets package.
McDonald listed 3 reasons why this Smith trade makes no sense for the Spurs.
- The Hawks are primarily interested in acquiring picks. Lottery picks.
- The Spurs have little to no interest in adding big payroll after this season.
- Leonard is borderline untouchable at this point.
He's absolutely correct on each and every one.
Someone hasn't been watching the games. Splitter is starting next to Duncan now. Wasn't happening last year. Or the year before.
Oh, by the way: Splitter and Duncan are hitting free throws. Why the would the Spurs give up Leonard or Splitter for Josh Smith, especially when he's going to ask for a max contract?
dont c this move happening more probably to do with ferry being the gm.
just glad to hear spurs r being active looking to improve the team per usual
2 trades:
Spurs trade JAX, Splitter, the rights to Lorbek, and a 1st round pick to the Hawks for Josh Smith and Anthony Morrow.
Spurs trade Dejuan Blair, Nando de Colo, and Matt Bonner to the Phoenix Suns for Marcin Gortat.
Spurs get 2 athletic big men that we need, including a great defensive presence in Smith who would help tremendously against teams like OKC, LAC, and MIA. Just the type of big splash we need to make it go all in on this season. Do it R.C.!
Last edited by BatManu20; 02-13-2013 at 04:04 PM.
I`ve been thinking on it, and it doesnt make any sense. Those 3 points, that McDonald listed are core of my thinking. Spurs could use Smith, badly, but they cant give any thinking valueable. Imagine Leonard + Smith running after Durant/LeBron - this couldnt be better.
I mean package like Jax + Green + Neal +/- Blair +/- Mills + 1st rounder + rights to Lorbek is weak as , and this is the best package Spurs could afford. Ferry could do it only on last minute before trade deadline, and this still would be a huge favor. It will only help Atlanta to get better draft number, nothing more.
Spurs couldnt even flip Bonner`s contract for bad one from Atlanta, because they dont have bad contracts. Stevenson for 2,2 mil/3yrs with 2 year TO and Williams for 5mil are pretty darn good contracts.
Don't forget about Bertans. The only organization I see giving up lottery picks for Smith is Phoenix and that's because they're morons and a mess of an organization. Maybe it makes sense for Cleveland or Dallas as well, but Cleveland is apparently saving its cap-space for LBJ, and besides a late lottery pick dallas doesn't have much to offer either. Giving J smooth a max contract would be condemning your organization to mediocrity if you're a lottery team. That's why they're getting BS packages like Humpries and Brooks. If they get desperate enough maybe they accept a package that doesn't include Splitter.
Ferry might also like Cory Joseph. He has done nothing significant but he has shown some flashes and is still very young.
True. I though about mentioning him or De Colo but they have teague, and I'm not sure if they're in the market for PGs, although I guess assets are assets.
Smith is raising his trade value. Last three games he's beasting. Tonight 30, 10 reb, 5 ast, 2 blk and 0 TO in 30 minutes with a +30 +/-
Do the Spurs need to make a move? I mean, is it really worth it to blow up the chemistry that is going on? Sure Josh Smith is overall more talented than Tiago, but what's his downside? We know his upside is clearly higher, but his downside is a serious issue while Tiago's is not. It's a very tough call and I have to say that I don't think the Spurs need to make a move that involves Big 5.
Josh Smith will never fit on a potential le team, tbh..his style of play doesn't translate to winning basketball..
He can't shoot, he can't post up..he can create off the dribble in ISO situations, but that wouldn't be effective against good playoff defense..his only redeeming offensive quality is his passing ability, he's a very good passing big..
His offensive flaws negate his defensive impact, tbh..
+1 I don't really even want a trade involving SJAX. See what they can get for Blair/Bonner/Neal, etc; those type of trades and that is about it. Just to eliminate some of the depth clog, so Pop can define roles for the playoffs.
It may be a tough call on trading Jax/filler/picks for Smith, but I don't think it's a tough decision at all for the FO to decline any trade for Smith that involves Splitter.
I wouldn't trade Jack for Smith either. I just don't see how Smith fits on this team. Like others have said, he's not a great mid range player, he's not a great 3 point shooter. He's average or maybe above average at everything, definitely not worth a max contract.
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