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didnt ur hero football club repented for the sexual assault cases against highschool girls??...lol clown rapists supporter
I am watching a film called Into The Abyss which is a doco about two blokes on death row.
One of them says he has repented for his sins and he's going to heaven. What I don't understand is that christianity forgives anything you've done if you repent before death.... can anyone explain to me why this religion makes it so if a person who murders multiple people (or whatever) but repents its fine.. but if you are not religious you will go to even if you're a good person
didnt ur hero football club repented for the sexual assault cases against highschool girls??...lol clown rapists supporter
Used to be a revenue stream for the Catholic hierarchy. Give money to buy forgiveness, repentance.
Christians can't allow you to keep on going without humiliating, prostrating yourself in repentance before the holy men. It's a power game.
"if you are not religious you will go to "
That's recruiting (donors) by scare-mongering. You're either with them or against them. Pure scare-mongering, money-driven politics. And you gotta kill the other Religions because they are a threat, and alternative world view, that challenges your Supreme, One-and-Only Religion's world view.
God will send you to suffer, burn, cry, for all eternity, ... BUT! ... He loves you!
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son you need to get the story right and learn to construct a sentence while you're at it
The Theology is that there is no such thing as a good "enough" person for Heaven. Hence, everyone has sinned and in need of forgiveness. Punishment for our sins is eternal punishment, but Jesus took the punishment upon himself so for anyone who "truly" repents and accepts Jesus will not have to pay for their sins.
That's the faith in a nuts .
religion wants people to learn that it's never too late to expiate what they've done wrong. "non-religious people will go to even if they're good persons" is a lie, religion uses such bull s to brainwash its adherents. if you don't believe it, it'll never apply to you whatever the bible says imho
Yeah, it's basically about money.
no reason for the ed and un able to drop money in the plate unless they had a shot at forgiveness.
The Catholic church monetized forgiveness. The rest of them, not so much.
a forgiving, merciful God that doles out eternal punishment.
What paradox?
The mercy is that he paid the price for all of us. You have to do nothing except accept humble yourself and realize you're a sinner and accept Jesus as Lord. That's my belief, but you are totally free to believe something else. At the end of the day you may be right, but I personally believe otherwise.
Not directly, but I don't know one church that doesn't mention your duty to he.
hing is not connected to forgiveness. It's a duty that supports the church's outreach programs among other initiatives and costs. So no, you really cant tie that to forgiveness even remotely.
I'm not trying to shove it down your throat that I'm right. I'm just wanting some semblance of logic to believing in Bible God because Heaven after death really does sound ing awesome.
Problem is, the more I discuss this with believers, the more illogical and frankly offensive it becomes to me.
hing is not a salvation issue. Christians tend to be the most charitable people in the world. Do some overstep by trying to impose "religion" on others? Yes, but we are all human and make mistakes. Again, everyone is free to believe whatever they want. That's what's great about this country.
Right, that's why I said ” not directly”.
But the way it goes is that the good christian will tell you that no matter what you've done, God will forgive you. He then will tell you to go church to learn more.
And if it's on the north side of San Antonio, this extra member might be the one whose he pays for the on site coffee shop. ” the Brew Testament” or something.
I didn't take it that way. Heaven does sound awesome, but I'm a believer because it makes me a better person. It does the best job at keeping me humble and treating people right.
I'm not perfect, but I can honesty say my faith is the best thing that ever happened to me. Maybe I was just a really terrible person in need of saving?
I asked this same question when I was a kid going to church for the first time. No one knows the actual standard for what repent means. It's hard to assume that say Hitler, right before he died, could have asked for forgiveness and gotten it. My church (non denomination) taught that you had to have true openness of your heart when you ask for forgiveness.
Some christian groups believe that non believers will go to pergatory. Some feel that if someone believes in their beliefs and do jesus' teaching then they will go to heaven.
It's a good question though. My advice would be that you go ask an actual pastor. They would def be able to give a better answer than myself or anyone on here. Or you could join Lngr's church. His sounds pretty cool! I'm not sure but I think it has something to do with one of Godzilla's opponent
True The RCC has had some bad Popes. But they have also had some great ones. They have done so much great and helped so many. The Maranists are one of the greatest groups of people in history IMO.
Confirmed: Atheists more motivated by compassion in charitable giving than believers are
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/05/0...believers-are/
lol confirmed
Did you read the update in that blog?
B_D article
Update: John McCormack of the Standard e-mails with a link to this Arthur Brooks piece from 2003. The numbers are … not good:
B_D's articleThe differences in charity between secular and religious people are dramatic. Religious people are 25 percentage points more likely than secularists to donate money (91 percent to 66 percent) and 23 points more likely to volunteer time (67 percent to 44 percent). And, consistent with the findings of other writers, these data show that practicing a religion is more important than the actual religion itself in predicting charitable behavior. For example, among those who attend worship services regularly, 92 percent of Protestants give charitably, compared with 91 percent of Catholics, 91 percent of Jews, and 89 percent from other religions…
B_D's article
Charity differences between religious and secular people persist if we look at the actual amounts of donations and volunteering. Indeed, measures of the dollars given and occasions volunteered per year produce a yawning gap between the groups. The average annual giving among the religious is $2,210, whereas it is $642 among the secular. Similarly, religious people volunteer an average of 12 times per year, while secular people volunteer an average of 5.8 times. To put this into perspective, religious people are 33 percent of the population but make 52 percent of donations and 45 percent of times volunteered. Secular people are 26 percent of the population but contribute 13 percent of the dollars and 17 percent of the times volunteered.
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