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    Does this mean that tiago is whats keeping the spurs from aquiring smith..?
    It's not happening. Ferry wants cap space/cheap talent/picks. Spurs don't have anything but a way to clean off more cap space (Jackson).

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    It's funny how a rumor gets started all because Ferry is a former Spur, I can almost guarantee that's how this whole thing started.

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    Ok, Espn trade machine says yes- you can do it and it works. What is there for Hawks ? Smith is gone, Jax and Blair could be, and Bonner is not. They will spend additional money, do not get any talented player, any draft pick.
    I should have clarified: other than adding a future 1st and or2nd rounder, I wouldn't touch any of our core guys. So basically, I dont advocate a practical trade. Just another way of me saying I don't think a trade will go down nor do I think it should because it would likely mean adding kawhi or Splitter.

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    There must be better offer. Bad teams like Bobcat can trade for Smith with a pick+fillers and absorb his salary and resign him next year. They can't do anything better in draft and in free agency, can they?
    It's damn difficult for a team to give true assets for Smith, a player that will be an unrestricted free agent this summer and is asking about $100M for his new contract.

    A team will only do such a trade if either they are fine with giving these $100M to Smith of if they are quite confident they will be able to re-sign him for a more reasonable contract like $60M or $70M over 5 years.

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    It's not happening. Ferry wants cap space/cheap talent/picks. Spurs don't have anything but a way to clean off more cap space (Jackson).
    Spurs do meet your requirements...
    #45 and Bonner=Cheap Talent
    Jackosn=Cap Space
    Draft Picks.. Done!!

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    Other team wants NEAL or TIAGO or COLO (Cheap player),Draft Picks.
    JAX is
    Salary (10M,end this year)
    AL & Smith are end this year too .

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    Spurs do meet your requirements...
    #45 and Bonner=Cheap Talent
    Jackosn=Cap Space
    Draft Picks.. Done!!
    When I say cheap talent, Blair and Bonner are not that. They are situational players who can help. Blair is really bad if you care about defense and I'm sure Ferry does.
    Draft picks = Spurs don't have many to give, and not very high. Not worth Smith.

    Ferry might be really good friends with Pop and RC, but he's not just going to hand them Smith for next to nothing.

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    Why give up Tiago for another expiring contract. I would rather keep Tiago and Colo and trade Bonner/Blair/Neal/Joseph/draft picks for whatever that can bring.

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    Are they just making up with rumors now?
    Its pure bull . Like someone said earlier, they're using the "spurs have interests in (insert player here)" card to
    pressure certain teams to make a move.
    The problem is, it usually works....
    RayRay2K8, LMBAO @ T-Mac photo, man, that's just wrong!!! hahahahahahaha!

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    Why give up Tiago for another expiring contract. I would rather keep Tiago and Colo and trade Bonner/Blair/Neal/Joseph/draft picks for whatever that can bring.
    They can do better than that.

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    This is true. What was in that proposed deal, anyway?
    I wish I could remember. It was last year or the year before. I think it involved the Bobcats or Wizards trading their whole roster for every All-Star you could fit under the tax. IIRC they had a decent-sized payroll then.

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    As I'm sitting here watching the Heat pound the Thunder in OKC, and watching Lebron's complete domination over the compe ion, I'm realizing that I don't think anyone can beat the Heat right now if Lebron plays like this. They just have too many options and too many 3-point shooters, and Lebron gets to the rim at will; Literally whenever he wants to. I think we could make it interesting, but in a 7 game series, I really don't think anyone can beat the Heat right now. We need to add a player tha can help protect the rim cause Duncan alone will be match for Lebron and Wade's penetration. But, if the Heat role players are knocking down open shots like they have been lately, it likely won't even matter.
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    Unlikely trade scenario: JAX, Bonner, Blair, and NDC for: Pau Gasol, Devin Ebanks, and Robert Sacre (Lakers also receive two 1st-round draft picks)

    I'm just talking out of my ass here, but this would be awesome tbh. Take a chance on a guy who could be a huge pickup come playoff time. We need another big, he'd be a perfect fit in this system with his passing ability and his mid range jump shot. Plus, he'd give us offense in the post other than Duncan. Lakers have been shopping him for 2 years now and you add in the fact that he's injured right now which gives them all the more reason to trade him. He's expected to be back in 6-8 weeks though so that shouldn't be an issue. Lakers realize they're done this season and want to trade Pau, and they traded all their draft picks for the next couple years acquiring Nash and Howard so they'd want to replenish. Spurs could get a real steal. Again, almost guaranteed not to happen but the Spurs should be trying to make it happen.

    OR

    JAX, NDC, Blair, and a 1st-round pick to PHX for: Marcin Gortat, Sebastian Telfair, and Wesley Johnson. Spurs get another athletic big that we desperately need, a serviceable backup PG, and a guy who I think could be a steal in the Spurs system. Johnson can shoots 3's lights out at time, he just can't create his own shot. Enter Spurs. This would be a good trade. Phoenix might bite.
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    As I'm sitting here watching the Heat pound the Thunder in OKC, and watching Lebron's complete domination over the compe ion, I'm realizing that I don't think anyone can beat the Heat right now if Lebron plays like this.
    That's why we need Smith if there's any way to get him.

    Duncan Smith backed up by Baynes Diaw could be incredible.

    The backup SF becomes a question mark if we include SJax in the trade, so maybe do Blair for Casspi as well.

    Sjax + Tiago + as many first rounders as it takes for Smith
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    Blair for Casspi

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    Unlikely trade scenario: JAX, Bonner, Blair, and NDC for: Pau Gasol, Devin Ebanks, and Robert Sacre (Lakers also receive two 1st-round draft picks)

    I'm just talking out of my ass here, but this would be awesome tbh. Take a chance on a guy who could be a huge pickup come playoff time. We need another big, he'd be a perfect fit in this system with his passing ability and his mid range jump shot. Plus, he'd give us offense in the post other than Duncan. Lakers have been shopping him for 2 years now and you add in the fact that he's injured right now which gives them all the more reason to trade him. He's expected to be back in 6-8 weeks though so that shouldn't be an issue. Lakers realize they're done this season and want to trade Pau, and they traded all their draft picks for the next couple years acquiring Nash and Howard so they'd want to replenish. Spurs could get a real steal. Again, almost guaranteed not to happen but the Spurs should be trying to make it happen.

    OR

    JAX, NDC, Blair, and a 1st-round pick to PHX for: Marcin Gortat, Sebastian Telfair, and Wesley Johnson. Spurs get another athletic big that we desperately need, a serviceable backup PG, and a guy who I think could be a steal in the Spurs system. Johnson can shoots 3's lights out at time, he just can't create his own shot. Enter Spurs. This would be a good trade. Phoenix might bite.
    I like this a bit. Gortat would be a perfect fit. He has size is mobile enough to fit in great and we don't give up too much on the back end. I would still prefer to shed Neal than Colo, but all in all a great trade proposal.

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    Pacers have shown that that height can work against the Heat as well.

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    PHX would be in no hurry to just dump Gortat. Spurs first rounders (at least the very short-term) don't hold a ton of value and PHX has 0 salary issues with Gortat on the books. If he is going to be moved it will be for a player they really like and/or picks that are more appealing.

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    Don't see why Spurs would feel the need mid-season to get a guy like Gortat who isn't as good a fit for the Spurs as Tiago is. If the Spurs make a trade that involves someone good, it'll be combining assets, including Tiago, and trying to bring back a star big next to Tim. Otherwise, this team is too strong to break up.

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    As I'm sitting here watching the Heat pound the Thunder in OKC, and watching Lebron's complete domination over the compe ion, I'm realizing that I don't think anyone can beat the Heat right now if Lebron plays like this. They just have too many options and too many 3-point shooters, and Lebron gets to the rim at will; Literally whenever he wants to. I think we could make it interesting, but in a 7 game series, I really don't think anyone can beat the Heat right now. We need to add a player tha can help protect the rim cause Duncan alone will be match for Lebron and Wade's penetration. But, if the Heat role players are knocking down open shots like they have been lately, it likely won't even matter.
    A team can beat them. We have the post scoring they can't stop, and enough shooters and penetrators to bedevil their donut defense. That's right. There's a great big hole right in the middle of it.

    Steve Kerr said on the OKC/MIA telecast that Miami caught a break last year by OKC eliminating us.

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    radio was saying atlanta was talking, jax and first round pick for josh

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    radio was saying atlanta was talking, jax and first round pick for josh
    if thats it then do it

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    radio was saying atlanta was talking, jax and first round pick for josh
    SA radio or ATL radio? Either way probably just rehashed speculation.

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    SA radio or ATL radio? Either way probably just rehashed speculation.
    Radio here said they read atl report. Yeah but who knows

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    radio was saying atlanta was talking, jax and first round pick for josh
    Sounds great...

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    radio was saying atlanta was talking, jax and first round pick for josh
    I'd do that in a heartbeat.

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