Mavs: Dirk: "Kobe the best player in the last 15 years, Duncan the best PF ever."

[Jodelo]

midnightpulp ting on Deuce as usual, per par, nothing new to see!

[midnightpulp]

That's the essence of your argument: 4th quarter stats>all.

Um, guards who are the best freethrow shooters on their team will typically have good 4th quarters in close games their team won because a lot of their scoring comes from intentional fouls. By whittling down a comparison between a big and a perimeter player in that regard is disingenuous. I don't feel like researching the stats, but I'm sure Manu scored more than Duncan in the 4th in close games through '05 until now.

Just post the overall stats from those games. Kobe outperformed Duncan overall anyway in the majority of the games you referenced, so choosing to focus on only the 4th is superfluous.

But I understand why you did so. In two of those games:

Game 2 of the '01 WCF:

Duncan: 40pt, 15rb, 3ast, 4blk, .577FG

Kobe: 28pt, 7rb, 6ast, 2st, .458FG

Game 6 of the '02 WCSF:

Duncan: 34pts, 25rb, 4ast, 2blk, .478FG

Kobe: 26pts, 8rb, 5ast, 1stl, .500FG

[DMC]

translation: " It's close to Valentine's Day and I'm frustrated I have no one to talk to."

Nah bro, I'm married and have too many people to talk to already. How about you, how's Houston today? Did you sell many roses on the corner?

[DMC]

midnightpulp ting on Deuce as usual, per par, nothing new to see!

With a moniker like "deuce" he's primed for it.

[Venti Quattro]

I love Dirk Diggler, tbh.

[ambchang]

A 12 minute span of the 4th quarter of a close game matters. I wouldn't expect you to know this though.

As oppose to a 48 minute span of playoff game doesn't matter? Or how about a 20 second stretch of a 1 point game. It doesn't matter if a game is close or not, the entire game is important.

And now that mid posted these stats showing Duncan > Kobe, you come in a cherry pick only the games in which the Lakers won and Kobe had good 4th quarters, rather than look at the entire span of their careers, which includes 1215 regular season games and 220 post season games for Kobe, and 1155 regular season games and 190 post season games for Duncan.

Seriously, when your boss does your year end evaluation for you, does he only look at the 2 times you did great work at the end of a project, then ignore all the other days you go sexually harass your female colleagues, be an office lawyer and ran your division 2 times overbudget and failed to deliver any results?