Why does christianity dictate that repent and sins are gone?

[Blake]

Your argument is self-defeating, because you are trying to use logic to show that logic doesn't apply.

That's the brainwash talking.

[silverblk mystix]

No, not really. Unicorns have never been seen, but we can come to the logical conclusion that they don't exist because there is zero evidence for their existence. The same goes to God.



See above.



No, I have not. You don't know what brainwashing means.



You are a complete dumbass with zero reading comprehension. FOR THE THIRD TIME, I AM NOT CLAIMING TO KNOW THAT GOD DOESN'T EXIST. I have stated repeatedly that I came to the logical conclusion that God doesn't exist based on lack of evidence for his existence. I am not claiming to know, because knowledge is justified true belief, and I can't possible demonstrate that God--or any gods--don't exist.

Your argument is self-defeating, because you are trying to use logic to show that logic doesn't apply.

So you bash others who have been brainwashed into thinking that god exists - but you now admit that you don't really KNOW that god does NOT exist.

Ok got it this time! Thanks!

Maybe in the future - you WONT bash believers because they are no different than you - they have just been brainwashed a little differently than yourself.

Kinda back to my original post in this thread don't you think?

Your BRAINWASHING is that you think you can apply logic to something that is a complete mystery. Kinda like pissing in the wind isn't it?

[Blake]

Your BRAINWASHING is that you think you can apply logic to something that is a complete mystery. Kinda like pissing in the wind isn't it?

you're calling yourself the wind? Why?

[Woo Bum-kon]

This reminds of all those times Avante bashed logic while trying to make logical arguments that God exists. This is idiocy, pure and simple.

So you bash others who have been brainwashed into thinking that god exists - but you now admit that you don't really KNOW that god does NOT exist.

I admitted that several pages ago, dumbass. You even addressed the post in which I admitted that. Do you have short term memory loss, Leonard Shelby?

Maybe in the future - you WONT bash believers because they are no different than you - they have just been brainwashed a little differently than yourself.

Not really. Again, you repeating something over and over again doesn't make it true.

Kinda back to my original post in this thread don't you think?

Yeah, the original post that you have completely failed to support with any kind of evidence whatsoever.

Your BRAINWASHING is that you think you can apply logic to something that is a complete mystery. Kinda like pissing in the wind isn't it?

That's not what brainwashing means and you don't know how logic works. You're a dumbass.

[silverblk mystix]

This reminds of all those times Avante bashed logic while trying to make logical arguments that God exists. This is idiocy, pure and simple.



I admitted that several pages ago, dumbass. You even addressed the post in which I admitted that. Do you have short term memory loss, Leonard Shelby?



Not really. Again, you repeating something over and over again doesn't make it true.



Yeah, the original post that you have completely failed to support with any kind of evidence whatsoever.



That's not what brainwashing means and you don't know how logic works. You're a dumbass.

If this isn't brainwashing - please refute it;

When you are convinced that your BELIEFS are facts. And you will DEFEND these beliefs stubbornly. These beliefs are sometimes defended to the death.

This is brainwashing.

If you opened your eyes someday - you would see that those beliefs were not FACTS at all. You just convinced yourself that you knew.

You convinced yourself or somebody convinced you (or brainwashed you) into believing you knew something to be a fact when it was a belief and you died defending this belief. You were brainwashed.

Certainly describes a lot of people who think they KNOW


In matters of love/god/freedom, etc...

[TeyshaBlue]

Conviction =/= brainwashing.

[Blake]

If this isn't brainwashing - please refute it;

When you are convinced that your BELIEFS are facts. And you will DEFEND these beliefs stubbornly. These beliefs are sometimes defended to the death.

This is brainwashing.

If you opened your eyes someday - you would see that those beliefs were not FACTS at all. You just convinced yourself that you knew.

You convinced yourself or somebody convinced you (or brainwashed you) into believing you knew something to be a fact when it was a belief and you died defending this belief. You were brainwashed.

Certainly describes a lot of people who think they KNOW


In matters of love/god/freedom, etc...

How do you know they don't know? Who are you to dictate such laws of logic and the universe?

[AussieFanKurt]

I don't have anything wrong with believing in god because not like I know if there is one, my problem is with man-made religion

[Woo Bum-kon]

If this isn't brainwashing - please refute it;

You have the burden of proof, not me.

When you are convinced that your BELIEFS are facts. And you will DEFEND these beliefs stubbornly. These beliefs are sometimes defended to the death.

Sure.

This is brainwashing.

No, it is not. If somebody tried to tell me that 2+2=5, I would be absolutely convinced that that person is wrong. No brainwashing necessary.

If you opened your eyes someday - you would see that those beliefs were not FACTS at all. You just convinced yourself that you knew.

There you go lying again.

You convinced yourself or somebody convinced you (or brainwashed you) into believing you knew something to be a fact when it was a belief and you died defending this belief. You were brainwashed.

Nope. And there you going lying again.

Certainly describes a lot of people who think they KNOW

Certainly shows that you have no idea what "brainwashing" is.

In matters of love/god/freedom, etc...

You add this qualifier without expounding upon it in any way, which makes it useless.

[spursncowboys]

I'd call it using rational thinking. After all, you don't KNOW that the sun will come up tomorrow. Does that mean you should just spend everything you have tonight on an awesome hooker party?

Does the Pope poop in the woods?

[silverblk mystix]

How do you know they don't know? Who are you to dictate such laws of logic and the universe?

Because there is no one on the planet that knows -

no one knows if there is a god

no one knows if there is not a god

So the people that are convinced they KNOW are simply brainwashed.

[Woo Bum-kon]

So the people that are convinced they KNOW are simply brainwashed.

That's not what "brainwash" means, dummy.

[Blake]

Because there is no one on the planet that knows -

Using your logic:

You don't know that there is no one on this planet that knows.

[silverblk mystix]

Using your logic:

You don't know that there is no one on this planet that knows.

So stop bashing religious believers because you and I are no different in these matters- we have just been brainwashed differently.

Thanks and good nite.

[baseline bum]

I'd call it using rational thinking. After all, you don't KNOW that the sun will come up tomorrow. Does that mean you should just spend everything you have tonight on an awesome hooker party?

Damn, now this knows how to do Valentine's Day. I'll bring the coke.

[Woo Bum-kon]

So stop bashing religious believers because you and I are no different in these matters- we have just been brainwashed differently.

Thanks and good nite.

For the millionth time, prove that I have been brain washed.

[Blake]

So stop bashing religious believers because you and I are no different in these matters- we have just been brainwashed differently.

We agree that nobody knows .

So stop whining when I bash ignorant dip s that push hate against gays, prayer in schools, In God We Trust on money and so on.

Thanks and good nite.

You're welcome. I thought your dumb ass would never leave.

[LnGrrrR]

Silverblk, do you accept the possible existence of every God?

[LnGrrrR]

yes.

#vince20%loan

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

hing is not connected to forgiveness. It's a duty that supports the church's outreach programs among other initiatives and costs.

When you say other initiatives and costs, you're admitting one of those is the pastor's ferrari fund, right?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

hing is not a salvation issue. Christians tend to be the most charitable people in the world. Do some overstep by trying to impose "religion" on others? Yes, but we are all human and make mistakes. Again, everyone is free to believe whatever they want. That's what's great about this country.

Giving money away because you think it's what's required to get into heaven isn't being charitable, it's making an investment. You're investing money to improve your standard of living in the afterlife. It's not different than making an IRA contribution. Real charity is donating money without expecting anything in return.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

There is at least one person in this thread that is definitely brainwashed.

Care to take a guess which one it is?

spursncowboys/Sean Jacquemotte?

[boutons_deux]

Religious states are also the unhappiest


A study released yesterday confirmed that Mississippi remains the most religious state in the Union, followed by a handful of its southern belt brothers: Alabama, Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma, as well as the Mormon stronghold of Utah. The Gallup poll showed that 58 percent of all Mississippians identify as “very religious.” The least religious states in the U.S. are the former stomping grounds of the very,very religious Puritans: Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Vermont, Maine and New Hampshire.

But life in these highly faithful states doesn’t seem to be all its cracked up to be. The most religious states in the U.S. share another trait: the highest use of anti-depressants.

Utah has long been the nation’s capital of happy pill popping, with its citizens twice as likely to be on anti-depressants than the general U.S. population. But the rest of the observant states aren’t far behind. Of the top-ten most religious states, nine have higher than average use of anti-depressants.

Some states have startlingly medicated populations.

In Utah, Louisiana and Arkansas–the 2nd, 4th and 5th most religious states in the Union– nearly 20 percent of the population is on some form of anti-depressants, according to a 2006 study by one of the largest prescription companies.

The rest of the highly religious states aren’t far behind. Mississippi (most religious), Alabama (third most religious), South Carolina (6th), Tennessee (7th), North Carolina (8th) and Oklahoma (10th) have above average rates of anti-depressant use, with 15 to 17 percent of the citizens medicated. Of the top-ten most religious states, only one–Georgia–isn’t disproportionately addicted to anti-depressants. Nationally, the prescription rate was about 14 percent.

Anti-depressants weren’t the only medication being doled out in the most religious states. In fact, a state’s level of religiosity correlates with a state’s overall medication rate. Of the top ten most religious states in the Union, six are also on the list of top-ten most medicated states.

http://www.salon.com/2013/02/15/nati...essed_partner/

[TeyshaBlue]

When you say other initiatives and costs, you're admitting one of those is the pastor's ferrari fund, right?

Specious arguments are specious.

[TeyshaBlue]

Religious states are also the unhappiest


A study released yesterday confirmed that Mississippi remains the most religious state in the Union, followed by a handful of its southern belt brothers: Alabama, Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma, as well as the Mormon stronghold of Utah. The Gallup poll showed that 58 percent of all Mississippians identify as “very religious.” The least religious states in the U.S. are the former stomping grounds of the very,very religious Puritans: Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Vermont, Maine and New Hampshire.

But life in these highly faithful states doesn’t seem to be all its cracked up to be. The most religious states in the U.S. share another trait: the highest use of anti-depressants.

Utah has long been the nation’s capital of happy pill popping, with its citizens twice as likely to be on anti-depressants than the general U.S. population. But the rest of the observant states aren’t far behind. Of the top-ten most religious states, nine have higher than average use of anti-depressants.

Some states have startlingly medicated populations.

In Utah, Louisiana and Arkansas–the 2nd, 4th and 5th most religious states in the Union– nearly 20 percent of the population is on some form of anti-depressants, according to a 2006 study by one of the largest prescription companies.

The rest of the highly religious states aren’t far behind. Mississippi (most religious), Alabama (third most religious), South Carolina (6th), Tennessee (7th), North Carolina (8th) and Oklahoma (10th) have above average rates of anti-depressant use, with 15 to 17 percent of the citizens medicated. Of the top-ten most religious states, only one–Georgia–isn’t disproportionately addicted to anti-depressants. Nationally, the prescription rate was about 14 percent.

Anti-depressants weren’t the only medication being doled out in the most religious states. In fact, a state’s level of religiosity correlates with a state’s overall medication rate. Of the top ten most religious states in the Union, six are also on the list of top-ten most medicated states.

http://www.salon.com/2013/02/15/nati...essed_partner/

lol. This "analysis" was totally destroyed in the comment section.