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^ No, you didn't. And Jesus' sacrifice was completely illogical and unnecessary.
not exactly sure what ur rhetorically asking, but ill give it a shot.
God the father, as judge of his law, must punish sinners or he would be an unjust God. Since not one is sinless, we all deserve punishment. Since God is Merciful, he sent a perfect sacrifice named Jesus to pay the price for all sins for those
Who accept it. The gift is free to any and all.
thats my faith in a nuts , but don't mistake my post as trying to convert you or anyone else. Totally not my job or concern. I post cuz someone asked. Conversion is up to God and I have faith that he doesn't need me.
as far as maybe me being closed minded, ill admit I am cuz I've had way too many miracles happen in my life to tthink that God doesn't exist.
^ No, you didn't. And Jesus' sacrifice was completely illogical and unnecessary.
Oh, the ol' narcissistic "Every time something good happens, it's obviously a miracle because god loves me and has a vested interest in seeing me thrive!" Christian at ude.
What I don't get is why these atheists are so set on stating reasons why God (who they don't believe in) forgives some things and not others. Most christians talk about God, and always include that we are man, destined to sin. So why bring up all the people who sinned in God's name? Why spend time trying to attack someone's personal beliefs? But then in another OP, state how the government should take from the rich to give to the poor, for charity...
Atheism is based on faith as well.
Christians try and convert people because they want to help them. Regardless if it's real. Jesus' basic principles are a pretty good way to live.
Atheists try and disprove religion why...To show how superior you are? What is to gain.
attacking pastors who make money to pay bills. How dare he/she...
I heard this cliche a million times. Care to explain?
No, they aren't.Christians try and convert people because they want to help them. Regardless if it's real. Jesus' basic principles are a pretty good way to live.
Last edited by Woo Bum-kon; 02-15-2013 at 09:24 PM.
The explanation is basically equivalent to calling it faith when one says there probably is no three- ed purple unicorn jerking himself off on the Martian polar icecap.Atheism is based on faith as well.
Which ones exactly aren't?
It's just another example of Christians saying that being in the negative is just as faith based as believing in the positive.
By their logic, believing the flying spaghetti monster doesn't exist is faith based
During the Crusades were Christians trying to help when they murdered anyone who didn't convert?
Why won't you answer my question about faith?
Jesus thinks that people who think about sinning have sinned, so he is the thought police. He also supports the Old Testament's teachings, which makes him pro-slavery.
Why incorporate your norms into the Dark Ages? If you're honestly not doing normal childish troll work...But I don't think you know how to do that.
Didn't crusaders ransack Christian cities, too?
You have no idea what you are talking about...He didn't support the Old Testament. Look if you honestly want to know about christianity, look into it and not just segments that might help your arguments.
FTR I'm not catholic and don't believe in praying through Saints and Angels...
lol re
lol Christians who disregard parts of the Bible they don't agree with
lol still dodging the faith question
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:17-20
...ok...now read it again
Cool non-response. Are you ever planning to address my points? Jesus clearly instructed people NOT to disregard the Old Testament.
I don't even understand how a Christian pretend that the OT doesn't exist (or, at least, the parts they don't agree with). Is the Bible not the word of God? Why would any of God's laws be obsolete?
No...The OT isn't disregarded. Dude just do some reading... Good luck
Then how isn't Jesus pro-slavery, then? Are you ever going to address my points? Or will you keep giving vague non-answers?
Last edited by Woo Bum-kon; 02-15-2013 at 10:08 PM.
*crickets* Kind of pathetic that spursncowboys wants me to make his argument for him.
Dude, you are heavily brainwashed and stupid. Just drop it before you look like even more of an ass.
I see you are still misusing the word "brainwash."
Is there a "Just" standard apart from God that God is held to? How can you say God had to do something to appease himself, but then sent himself to not actually die (live eternally) so his justness is saved in the eyes of man while giving man a "get out of jail free" card? All this because man isn't fit to live with this God, who created man in his own image but who couldn't get along with his own partner (Lucifer) as he didn't want to share any power, and 33% of the workforce agreed and setup shop with Lucifer, and now Lucifer is recruiting more good workers than God could because God is a government agency while Lucifer operates in the private sector, where profit is instant and it's an "at will" state.
He's basically asking for some logic in this belief system.
You're saying that God made the rules, including eternal damnation for non-belief......but he's a loving, merciful God?
Do you really not see the countless flaws in this or are you choosing to ignore them?
Last edited by Blake; 02-16-2013 at 09:47 AM.
Christians attack gays and abortion.
I want Christians to prove Christianity or get the out of politics.
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