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If he is traded, does that mean you go with him to whatever ty Celtics board is out there?
Who would we trade him for? Fab Melo? Chris Wilcox?
If he is traded, does that mean you go with him to whatever ty Celtics board is out there?
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He will go something like 20 & 13 in the next couple of weeks if this is true... Moving Garnett move to the perimeter is freeing up the inside for DB.
Is that actually true? Or are Boston fans just assuming because there was an article about it?
Man this would be an even greater season if they traded this scrub!!
Fab Melo anyone?
I don't think they watched the NBA during the spurs championship years. You can't, I repeat, you can't compare Danny Green to Ray Allen based on three point percentage. Its a joke. I like Danny but the kid can't dribble or even make a layup. He's a product of kickouts and will not even be half the player Allen was in his prime.
This. Danny Green is already 25, Ray Allen at that age was dropping 22/5/4 a night lol
Danny Green is basically Anthony Parker/A softer Raja Bell.
SHARMAN SOFT..
If this is true I wonder what we get cause it can't be the Celtics second rounder as they gave that to Portland so either there mid first round pick or they just give us cash?
Pop has always liked Bass. I would not be surprised to see Bonner, Bair and Joseph or Mills go for Bass and a future draft pick.
i make the comparison because of dannys ability to make 3's and play d. no danny isn't the playmaker allen is, probably won't ever be. but ferry or green may see it differently. a smith trade that doesn't involve the big 3, kawhi/splitter, or decolo/diaw! overvaluing green is the only way i see it possible. knowing ferry, it doesn't seem so far fetched.
if green blossomed into a star, what star would he most resemble? off the top of your head.
That's a really hard question to answer, because his game would have to change so much. Old Michael Finley?
Really, Green would be best served to develop into an essential all-around role player. Those 15/5/5/2/2 players are never really considered stars.
EDIT: Spurs Finley's offense with Tony Allen's defense. That's about Green's dream ceiling. I don't really know if there's a star out there that resembles that combination.
Last edited by Chinook; 02-16-2013 at 10:49 PM.
FAb Melo really!! People are very high on this scrub! He looks like he is hobbling when he runs the floor. He is like a lop.
15/5/5? 2/2? For Green? Really?
He has 4 career games with 5 assists or more. How could he ever average 5 assists? Maybe he could get 5 rebounds. He's never even averaged 1 block a game.
It doesn't matter. He'll never blossom into a star. Lets drop it and worry about trade rumors.
That's why it's called a ceiling and not a what he's already doing. I think those are realistic numbers, though if he reaches his potential. His per 36 numbers aren't too far off in anything but assists.
You may be confusing Green's upside with what you want him to turn into. On offense his upside is 12-14 ppg. On defense his upside is what you're seeing. At best that makes him a third to fourth option on offense and the second or third best perimeter defender on the team. He's a three to four million dollar man, but certainly no Lee Majors. He will be 26 years old right after the end of this season, not sure why to expect a lot more?
While I conceded that I'd love to see him reach his ceiling, I don't think I am being too optimistic in defining what his ceiling is. Green's main fault is that he makes little mental errors, which are completely fixable. He certainly is not too old to learn to stop leaving people wide open on defense. He's already a pretty good on ball defender.
He also already averages 14 points/36, so if he can stop missing easy layups, he could easily push that to 18-20.
Parker has added a lot to his game since turning 25. Why can't Green fix mental errors?
EDIT: So in order for him to reach the numbers I suggested, Green would have to add 1.2 points, 0.1 rebounds, 3.1 assists (big leap there) 0.6 steals and 1.1 blocks to his per 36 averages. Except for the assists, my numbers seem conservative.
Last edited by Chinook; 02-16-2013 at 11:37 PM.
Not close to realistic.
Just talking steals: Very few players average 2 steals a game. 2 this year. 2 in 11-12. 3 in 10-11. 2 in 09-10. 4 in 08-09. It just doesn't happen very often.
Then with blocks . . . you know how many guards averaged 2 blocks a game the since 02-03? ZERO.
Of all players since 02-03, how many have averaged 2 blocks and 2 steals? One, Gerald Wallace. He didn't come close to 5 assists per game either. And you can go back 20 years to 92-93 and there's no one else. Kirilenko never averaged 2 & 2 per 36.
Just ignoring blocks . . . how many players since 02-03 have averaged 15, 5, 5, and 2 steals a game?
Just seven. Paul (x2), Kobe, Wade, Lebron, Kidd, and Iguodala. All hall of famers except Iguodala . . . who didn't even qualify per36 for steals because he played 40 minutes a game. None of them had 2 blocks a game, Wade came closest with 1.3 in over 38 minutes per game.
Thanks for justifying you thinking, really respect that. Let me make a statement and then ask a question. Duncan, Ginobili and Parker all won at least one NBA le before they were 25 years old. Did they have more help than Danny Green has had the past two years? On a one to ten scale I think Green's upside is a 6 to 7 and I think that if anyone of the Spurs young players can lead the team it's Leonard.
And finally with the 15/5/5/2/2 pipedream.
NO player has done that the last 25 years on a per 36 basis according to Basketball Reference. Not Jordan. Not Pippen. Not Kirilenko. Not Kidd. Nobody. Bledsoe is at 1.4 blocks per 36, so he might have a chance.
greens value = trade rumor talk, buddy.
i'd expect more if he get's center-pieced in atlanta with teague and horford.
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