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    .... Means it really bothers him. I love how he pulled out the Horry card, and even threw out Jud Buehcler ...



    Look I have been banging the Lebron is the best and it's not close ...and the chance to surpass MJ drum all season (and last)
    But the latest denials makes me wonder about him again. I dont blame him for defending himself ... or for the fact that having his idol choose Bryant hurts. I just think a player playing as great as LEbron is right now ...shouldnt get sucked in to MJ's trolling ....publicly. OF course MJ's choice of Kobe was self-serving ...Kobe tried to eclipse Jordan and failed, he is no longer a threat, James still has an outside shot. I just wish (for his sake) that this stuff would not bother him so much outwardly. The "I could win the scoring le if wanted" .... and his rings should not be the judge of someone's career just sounds weak to me. MJ is throwing out a challenge and James should seek to meet it. Remember not 1, not 2, not 3 ...? MJ threw out a challenge James has a great team .... and he is by far the best player ... so go after 7, shut MJ up. Outwardly he should of stopped at MJ is en led to his opinion ...but internally he should be burning for 7 just like Kobe burns for it or MJ wanted to win more than Magic. To me it just sounded like he is preparing "his defense" if he falls short.

    OH and MJ is throwing out the ring thing ...because he figures there is a chance LBJ wont get 6 ... and if he does,after he already threw out the "I would of never joined Wade's team card" ... 3 years ago. Trust me, both MJ and LBJ are bothered right now. MJ by the LBJ may be the future GOAT ...and James by his responses ... this is James league stop letting this stuff bother you James you abbove this or should be.

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    LeBron is as fake humble and fake classy as it gets.

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    LeBron is as fake humble and fake classy as it gets.
    He didn't rape.

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    The rings argument is for people that are not intelligent enough to form actual arguments using numbers and analysis, tbh..

    Advanced stats have progressed nicely into NBA media, they will continue to grow in the NBA world as the years progress, tbh..

    There are certain players that are negatively affected by quantifying their impact, tbh..

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    The rings argument is for people that are not intelligent enough to form actual arguments using numbers and analysis, tbh..

    Advanced stats have progressed nicely into NBA media, they will continue to grow in the NBA world as the years progress, tbh..

    There are certain players that are negatively affected by quantifying their impact, tbh..
    Sure advanced metrics have value, still doesnt matter more than the respect of your peers or your idol. their are analytics that say Lebron is already A GOAT candidate ... that did not seem to matter as much to James as what MJ said tbh ...

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    The rings argument is for people that are not intelligent enough to form actual arguments using numbers and analysis, tbh..

    Advanced stats have progressed nicely into NBA media, they will continue to grow in the NBA world as the years progress, tbh..

    There are certain players that are negatively affected by quantifying their impact, tbh..
    Yep. Just like they have in baseball. Batting average was once the be-all, end all of a player's impact and value, now no one gives a about it. "Per game" stats need to become similarly obsolete.

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    some players may have perfect advanced stats but retire w/o a ring, which's another example that people don't get fairly rewarded for their capabilities and efforts in this society. it's still the rings and trophies for which players often get recognized

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    Yep. Just like they have in baseball. Batting average was once the be-all, end all of a player's impact and value, now no one gives a about it. "Per game" stats need to become similarly obsolete.
    agree to an extent but bball is different than baseball ...

    Ball is about the gym, the barbershop and arguing with buddies. Analytics comes up a bit ... but ball is so much more than boxscores and advanced metrics.

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    For the record this had nothing do with Kobe ... like I said he already lost this race. Im speaking about James and the fact he lets this bother him ...and comparing him to MJ. Kobe has no shot at passing MJ ...Lebron still does.

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    agree to an extent but bball is different than baseball ...

    Ball is about the gym, the barbershop and arguing with buddies. Analytics comes up a bit ... but ball is so much more than boxscores and advanced metrics.
    Of course it is. My point is that per game stats tell us less about a player's statistical impact than advanced stats, which take pace into consideration. Rebound rate tells me who is a better rebounder than rebounds-per-game and so forth.

    And as far as Lebron goes, he's the best "eye test" player in the NBA, since so much of what he does on the court can't be quantified by stats.

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    Of course it is. My point is that per game stats tell us less about a player's statistical impact than advanced stats, which take pace into consideration. Rebound rate tells me who is a better rebounder than rebounds-per-game and so forth.

    And as far as Lebron goes, he's the best "eye test" player in the NBA, since so much of what he does on the court can't be quantified by stats.
    No doubt. I think Lebron is gonna past all tests: advanced, traditional eye tests and maybe even the ring one too ...

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    Too much failure with a stack team. 11 hurts his legacy more than anything.

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    But the latest denials makes me wonder about him again. I dont blame him for defending himself ... or for the fact that having his idol choose Bryant hurts. I just think a player playing as great as LEbron is right now ...shouldnt get sucked in to MJ's trolling ....publicly. e onOutwardly he should of stopped at MJ is en led to his opinion ...but internally he should be burning for 7 just like Kobe burns for it or MJ wanted to win more than Magic. To me it just sounded like he is preparing "his defense" if he falls short.
    I've only read and listened to Brons reply to Jordan once.
    Where do you get "repeatedly"?
    Akin, you say you "don't blame him for defending himself"? Compare and contrast.

    While i also would like to see LeBron ignore the self serving insecure Jordan, when the media constantly has a mic in your face and it prolly intensified 1000Xs at the ASG, i see no problem with Bron stating what true hoop is all about vs Jordan and the wring counters spew.

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    Of course it bothers him, everything thing about lebron just screams of a guy who needs to be validated all the time

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    Pretty sure it bothers Kobe he doesn't have his 6th ring.

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    He's only answering the questions he's being asked. And knowing this is during ASW and Jordan 50th, this whole story is being magnified 100x over by the 500 reporters asking the exact same question. How else do you expect him to respond??

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    His point was a good one. It's a fallacy to conclude that more rings = better player.

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    Pretty sure it bothers Kobe he doesn't have his 6th ring.
    And that's a good thing tbh. That's what should fuel a player, the desire to get the next ring. What other players, media or people in general think about him is irrelevant imo and he shouldn't let that bother him.

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    Sometimes you gotta take the pussy like Pepe

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    For the record this had nothing do with Kobe ... like I said he already lost this race. Im speaking about James and the fact he lets this bother him ...and comparing him to MJ. Kobe has no shot at passing MJ ...Lebron still does.
    He lost what race exactly? He has more rings than anyone since Jordan and it will stay that way in all likely hood.

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    He lost what race exactly? He has more rings than anyone since Jordan and it will stay that way in all likely hood.
    How soon we forget about horry.

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    For the record this had nothing do with Kobe ... like I said he already lost this race. Im speaking about James and the fact he lets this bother him ...and comparing him to MJ. Kobe has no shot at passing MJ ...Lebron still does.
    dunno what race lebron has lost, failure to win rings or losing in the finals...why is it hold against a player higher than someone who misses the playoffs?

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    How soon we forget about horry.
    LOL at the Kobe hate here is so bad people wanna support Lebron. Reminds me of that ass town in the movie the quick and the dead where everyone will do anything to have Gene Hackman's character killed. Ya'll aint about dis life

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    Sure advanced metrics have value, still doesnt matter more than the respect of your peers or your idol. their are analytics that say Lebron is already A GOAT candidate ... that did not seem to matter as much to James as what MJ said tbh ...
    The majority of players that end up being analysts are terrible at it tbh. The King is probably just pissed at the fact that the media puts so much stock into the opinion of a bunch of uneducated current/former players, getting the approval of your peers is nice but not when your peers are dumb as .

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    The majority of players that end up being analysts are terrible at it tbh. The King is probably just pissed at the fact that the media puts so much stock into the opinion of a bunch of uneducated current/former players, getting the approval of your peers is nice but not when your peers are dumb as .
    watta bout clowns who have never won , but think they are the ...

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