Crom is the god of REH's Conan.
http://conan.wikia.com/wiki/CromCrom is worshipped, if that is truly the case, it is presumed, by the bulk of the Cimmerian people. The name is probably derived from the ancient Irish deity Crom Cruach. Crom is a grim and gloomy god, ever watching from atop his mountain in dark clouds and obscuring mists, ready to pass a disapproving judgment on any and all, but he is said to approve of courage and tenacity, even if the human is too frail to succeed. He is not so much worshipped as invoked (In Howard's works Conan exclaims things like "Crom and his devils"), as a swearword or when trying to gather one's courage. Not that he ever does anything, good or bad, to mortals. It is said that his sole gift to men is to bestow them at birth with the courage to go on, survive, and vanquish adversity.
You are a better person now that you know this. You can thank me later.
Learning to manage finances properly before venturing off on your own is of particular importance. My children already have their own accounts with the Bank of Dad. I absolutely refuse to leave them clueless to the game as the loan offers begin to roll in later on.
Yeah Drachan your list is right. I didn't see it when I replied although I was using the more common meaning of the word independent. There must have been some changes since I was 24 but maybe not because I never qualified for any of those scenarios anyway. Basically, those scenarios don't cover very much of the population so while your post is technically right I do think the vast majority of students end up having to report parental income until their 24.
Honestly I don't think financial aid is that hard to understand but it changes so damn often. There are things that go right down to these last minute deals in DC that have huge effects (my tax return will be delayed this year because I'm claiming a tax credit for tuition, IE).
I don't anticipate having children, but if I did there is no way I'd let them fend for themselves. I cringe when I hear about people like Darrin trying to compare working through college in the past to having to do it today. Its simply irresponsible of a parent not to put your kids in the best possible situation and especially when the government is going to count your income against them until they are 24.
college is not for everyone, but u can always use it to save money for the long term...whether car, marriage, house for ur child...
Then STFU. I didn't say I haven't saved ANY money -- just not SPECIFICALLY for their education.
And cry me a river with all this "it's so much harder to work through college these days"
I'm not asking for your sympathy, Darrin. I'm pointing out the facts. It is a fact that people in college level jobs make less today and its a fact that tuition has increased at an astronomical rate in the past decade +. I would never ask for your sympathy or even understanding seeing as you're one of the most myopic people I've ever encountered in my life and seeing as I've managed to put myself through school in a much harder time than you did. I do feel a bit sorry for your kids, though. They didn't ask to have such a bad father.Then STFU. I didn't say I haven't saved ANY money -- just not SPECIFICALLY for their education.
And cry me a river with all this "it's so much harder to work through college these days"
It happens to be true though. Denial won't change that.And cry me a river with all this "it's so much harder to work through college these days"
Meh, don't feel sorry for my kids. They are both in GT programs and excel academically. I often wonder if they'll tire of school and do their own thing. The most creative and talented people often drop out of college.
at least they don't have to live with the inferior genes from their yellow dads throughout their lifetimes. college has been for years and hs graduates should be aware of the risk/reward ratio before setting up their mind to go to colleges, and that even an advanced college degree won't guarantee in the lame economy. dudes need to plan their own futures, and compared to getting through the courses, a more important mission for them students is to get smarter and more mature through the 4yr school life, which you obviously fell short of
there were no english classes or tests back in the time when you were studying in college im guessing, if you ever attended any college or whatsoever.
and that's another example why the current educational system is a ed up one. education is a god given right for them american students, at least those state-funded colleges shouldn't charge the students that much when their parents have been paying taxes to the government their whole lives. the irony is it's much easier for the kids from foreign countries and the families of "legal" immigrants to get financial aid from the government of the United ing States, and when a local student wants to apply for subsidy or student loan, the government needs to take into account their parents' income and leaves them buried in debt by the time they graduate, while granting aids to immigrants bas s for FREE!!!
it is a damn ING SHAME i saaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidddddddddd...
America's culture on college needs to change or there at least needs to be a 2nd opinion or view on it. We need to stop brainwashing kids into thinking that college is the only option for kids after high school. That type of brainwashing can really up people. It ed me up big time and I'm now paying the price. I can admit that I made a lot of mistakes and basically listened to and followed terrible advice. At the time, the advice seemed like it was right and logical but looking back on it, the advice was horrible and I was a in' idiot for listening to it. I'd love to give speeches on this. I'd probably do it for free because I feel sorry for these little peckers that are putting themselves in debt and ruining their credit just so they can have a piece of paper that says they graduated. In recent history, I probably graduated in the worst periods of time. I graduated from high school in 2002. It wasn't even a year after 9/11. I graduated from college in 2008 and we all know what happened to the economy in 2008. Extremely bad timing.
My tuition my last semester at UT (Fall 1999) with 13 hours was a grand total of $2500. 7 years later my brother went back to UT after dropping out and his last semester tuition was around $9k for 12 hours.
finally someone stopped dancing around the fact this thread is a bunch of people finding ways to justify their ty and selfish parenting.
Being incapable of saving for your kids' education due to financial constraint is one thing, being completely able to save and chosing not to is ty parenting. College is both more expensive and more important than ever these days.
WTF?
Please tell me, what makes it harder to work and go to school than 30 years ago?
The fact that tuition is a lot higher now than it was 30 years ago (and no, it's not just inflation).
And that means it's harder to work while going to college?
I don't think anyone is saying merely working and going to college is hard (I did it through most of college and it wasn't that challenging, but I didn't have to worry about about paying tuition). Putting yourself through college by working and going to school is what's become harder.
Granted, it costs more today than in the past vs. wages and living expenses, but that's no reason do go in debt more than necessary. To do so is irresponsible.
I guess that's where you have to define "necessary"... seems like the job market is so glutted right now, you need a degree or relevant experience just to compete. I would say a liberal arts degree is somewat of a waste, but certainly not so for any of the STEM careers.
I see...
Too good for any job...
feeling en led by chance?
Going into debt to get a liberal arts degree is irresponsible, yes, going into debt to get a technical degree that leads to a job isn't irresponsible.
It's really a myth now that the job market is horrible and ANY college grad is lucky to get a job out of school. There's a premium on anyone who's capable of doing math.
Man Economy sucks and a college degree is no promise of success.
but that's no reason do go in debt more than necessary
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