Rachel Maddow: Iraq WMD Fraud Exposé Will Cause “Political Upset”

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Nice to see Wesley Crusher still on the air.

[Wild Cobra]

Provide a specific example of Rachel Maddow being dishonest.

I have pointed out specific things in the past. I'm not going to look them up again.

[ChumpDumper]

I have pointed out specific things in the past. I'm not going to look them up again.

Actually you just said that and hoped no one would notice you never had really done it.

[Wild Cobra]

Actually you just said that and hoped no one would notice you never had really done it.

Bull .

I have shown cases of her reporting incorrect in the past. I simply have better things to do with my time.

[ChumpDumper]

Bull .

I have shown cases of her reporting incorrect in the past. I simply have better things to do with my time.

Like what?

Posting over and over again that you have better things to do?

I'm sure it's a very quick search on this site. Humor us.

[mouse]

I would like to hear from Wild Cobra what it is about Rachel Maddow he doesn't like before I can post a proper response.

He is usually open minded so I am curious.

[boutons_deux]

He is usually open minded

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Bull .

I have shown cases of her reporting incorrect in the past. I simply have better things to do with my time.

No, you haven't and we all know that in times when a search is available to find your you do so. That normally backfires as we review what was said then as well but that is a different story.

You can sit there in your little girl world and play pretend that you have specifics but in big bog world we don't take your bull on an assertion.

[Agloco]

WC is usually open minded so I am curious.

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[Latarian Milton]

iraq WMD ain't no fraud imho, towelheads even used that in the iraq-iran war if i remember correct. just because they were totally destroyed by US airforce before the ground troops arrived it doesn't mean they never existed imho

[Wild Cobra]

iraq WMD ain't no fraud imho, towelheads even used that in the iraq-iran war if i remember correct. just because they were totally destroyed by US airforce before the ground troops arrived it doesn't mean they never existed imho

If you look at the black and white of the legal reasons, Saddam did not comply with the UN agreements he signed, in which we agreed to stop, during Desert Storm. That alone gave us all the reason we needed to go in.

Any of you actually in that theater of operation during Desert Storm? I was in communications repair, and we were part of the real deal. I will ask that unless you were at least partially involved, shut the up, because you don't know .

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Violating UN agreements does not mean we just get to declare war. The security council certainly did not sign off on it. It was a unilateral action.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3661134.stm

Kofi Annan at the time said it was illegal according to the UN charter.

You really should not talk to others about not knowing . Invoking the UN as justification for the invasion of Iraq is what is ignorant.

[admiralsnackbar]

If you look at the black and white of the legal reasons, Saddam did not comply with the UN agreements he signed, in which we agreed to stop, during Desert Storm. That alone gave us all the reason we needed to go in.

Any of you actually in that theater of operation during Desert Storm? I was in communications repair, and we were part of the real deal. I will ask that unless you were at least partially involved, shut the up, because you don't know .

Unless you were a General or Sec. of State in addition to your com. tech duties, you don't know about what actually happened either -- Saddam may have broken his UN agreements, but that would make him far from unique. The UN favored sanctions to military action, and even AFTER the worldwide support for the US following 9/11, even AFTER Powell's case for war, it took all manner of cajoling to persuade minor UN players to build the "coalition of the willing" because half of our NATO buddies told us to eat a after UN inspectors found no evidence of WMDs. This was just 10 years ago... shouldn't be so hard to recollect.

Nobody's disrespecting your service, man, but nobody's talking about Desert Storm, either. They were totally different wars fought under totally different pretenses.

[Wild Cobra]

Violating UN agreements does not mean we just get to declare war. The security council certainly did not sign off on it. It was a unilateral action.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3661134.stm

Kofi Annan at the time said it was illegal according to the UN charter.

You really should not talk to others about not knowing . Invoking the UN as justification for the invasion of Iraq is what is ignorant.

I don't give a rat's ass who's ass you wish to quote. In my opinion, we had every right to go in, and if you think the UN is our mommy or daddy...

[Wild Cobra]

Unless you were a General or Sec. of State in addition to your com. tech duties, you don't know about what actually happened either -- Saddam may have broken his UN agreements, but that would make him far from unique. The UN favored sanctions to military action, and even AFTER the worldwide support for the US following 9/11, even AFTER Powell's case for war, it took all manner of cajoling to persuade minor UN players to build the "coalition of the willing" because half of our NATO buddies told us to eat a after UN inspectors found no evidence of WMDs. This was just 10 years ago... shouldn't be so hard to recollect.

Nobody's disrespecting your service, man, but nobody's talking about Desert Storm, either. They were totally different wars fought under totally different pretenses.

Say what you wish. I'll bet where I was at, I knew more than most.

[admiralsnackbar]

Say what you wish. I'll bet where I was at, I knew more than most.

About the war we aren't talking about, yeah.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I don't give a rat's ass who's ass you wish to quote. In my opinion, we had every right to go in, and if you think the UN is our mommy or daddy...

You cited a legal basis and then mentioned the Un for said legal basis asserting that the noncompliance to a resolution was the justification.

Not only did the resolution not grant use of force for noncompliance but the Secretary General himself stated it was an illegal action.

Ans snackster is right on. Germany and France told us they did not support our action. IOW the international community did not support it nor did the majority of our NATO allies.

Now you say that the UN has no authority. Well no but all that does is further discredit your position of a legal basis.

You cannot even keep up with your own nonsense.

[Wild Cobra]

Don't cry fuzzy. I know it's hard to comprehend. We were not bound by what the UN says or thinks.

[BobaFett1]

Nothing like a lame pun to discredit a Rhodes scholar. As big a lefty as she is ideologically, she's a pretty damn good and uncommonly honest investigative journalist. Whether the same can be said for the do entary she's plugging remains to be seen, I guess.

So will madcow look into Obama unjust war in Libya?

[BobaFett1]

iraq WMD ain't no fraud imho, towelheads even used that in the iraq-iran war if i remember correct. just because they were totally destroyed by US airforce before the ground troops arrived it doesn't mean they never existed imho

Man Latarian Milton THE LEFT SURE GAVE oBUMMER A pass for Fast and Furious.

[boutons_deux]

When Maddow rapes the Repugs for lying US into wasting 5000 US military lives and a few $T, the right-wing trolls swarm like maggots out of a dead rat.

[BobaFett1]

When Maddow rapes the Repugs for lying US into wasting 5000 US military lives and a few $T, the right-wing trolls swarm like maggots out of a dead rat.

So what about Obama getting us in fast and furious and getting a man killed in Libya? Both sides are crooks.

[boutons_deux]

So what about Obama getting us in fast and furious and getting a man killed in Libya? Both sides are crooks.

False equivalence. F&F = Iraq war for oil

Barry didn't lie US in to F&F, and was probably not aware of it at all.

y'all got NOTHING but ing Fox Repug Propaganda talking points.

[SA210]

So will maddow look into Obama unjust war in Libya?

I've been waiting too

[BobaFett1]

False equivalence. F&F = Iraq war for oil

Barry didn't lie US in to F&F, and was probably not aware of it at all.

y'all got NOTHING but ing Fox Repug Propaganda talking points.

44 Minutes Ago #48
boutons_deux if you think Barry knew nothing about f@f or Stevens getting ambushed in Libya you are driking the kool aid. I am NOT a fan of either party. Not the jackass or the elephant.