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Fast and Furious was a bad thing and I love how Barry swept it under the rug. Holder got a pardon anyway if he ratted out his boss.
As covered above, I wouldn't hold my breath as long as she's on MSNBC.
That said... are you ing serious? Comparing the -up in Libya to the tsunami of Iraq is like comparing a zit to Mt. Vesuvius, man.
Fast and Furious was a bad thing and I love how Barry swept it under the rug. Holder got a pardon anyway if he ratted out his boss.
It should still be covered and scrutinized, tbh. Obama did run on ending those types of war policies. War crimes are war crimes, just saying.
Man we never comitted war crimes...........I know some leftist want to say Us is bad. I say go to North Korea to find out bad.
We are supposed to be better than bombing countries we are not at war with. Obama running aganst such policies, then doing a complete turnaround and then EXPANDING them instead, should be highly scrutinized all over the tv on the msm, and should have been during the election too. They are war crimes, we are bombing countries we have peace treaties with, killing babies and innocents with no declaration of war and even assassinating Americans now with no charges or due process. That's even going beyond Bush.
What Americans have been killed without due process? If they are terrorist they deserve no due process.
...And now with the Fast and Furious? If both sides are crooks, why are you bringing up partisan bull like this? I agree F&F is dodgy as and deserves an actual criminal investigation instead of a roomful of bloated senatorial nitwits in Brooks Brothers suits asking empty questions to arrive at nothing material. And why stop there? Obamacare and the ing post-TARP Obama giveaways are almost certainly at the very least negligent if not epically criminal orgies of cronyism. Even so, there's still no comparison between any of that and a war that potentially killed 100,000+ (vastly more if you count the ensuing civil wars) people illegally while bankrupting both nations.
Take off the partisan goggles and be an American for a minute -- if there's proof that the war was premeditated and arrived at by deception, the people responsible have dishonored us all and made us all suffer. Who cares what ing party they belonged to?
The Cons ution disagrees, ALL Americans are afforded due process, regardless of your feelings toward them. And regardless of what the lying White House tells us. They have not provided proof that these AMERICANS were terrorists or planning to attack us, they refuse to show proof.
Link: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209087
And the worst one was the 16 year old from Colorado that was NEVER accused of ANY crime at all, simply killed because they didn't like his father. They killed him in a non combat zone eating dinner with his cousins. No crime, never accused of a crime, and definitely not any kind of threat, especially not imminent.
Link: http://screechingkettle.blogspot.com/2012/10/a-boy-named-adam.html
Obama is a mass murderer, a war criminal, has committed treason, and belongs on trial, impeached, and should be on his way to prison, same as Bush and Cheney.
So basically you're saying the government gets to cir vent due process by labeling anyone they please as a terrorist?
If you in another country aiding the enemy and a American you lost your dam rights.
Where in the cons ution does it grant this exception to due process?
[QUOTE=DUNCANownsKOBE;6370002]Where in the cons ution does it grant this exception to due process
Solid counterargument. A Tech N9ne song
What did the 16 year old American boy do wrong? I'd like to see the proof or even the accusation. Besides the one Gibbs gave that he should have had a better father.
Remember, it was a separate attack 2 weeks later after his American father was murdered without due process.
Rand Paul would like to know about the 16 year old too. Go to the 7:30 mark
In all seriousness I agree rights need to be protected. Madcow is not a credible source to do it.Solid counterargument. A Tech N9ne song
Why do you not find her credible?
Can anyone name the last president that hasn't committed this type of mass murder?
cuz she's not on fox, silly.
In case you missed it last night, here is the do entary Hubris. You can watch it on MSNBC's site
http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/02/19/watch...s-do entary/
"If you look at the black and white of the legal reasons, Saddam did not comply with the UN agreements he signed, in which we agreed to stop, during Desert Storm. That alone gave us all the reason we needed to go in."
If that were sufficient, why did dubya/ head/rummy/perle/connie have to tell lies about yellowcake, mobile weapons labs, aluminum tubes, curveball, Saddam-AQ?
"Saddam did not comply with the UN agreements"
which justified punishing him with 5000 dead US military and US $Ts wasted?
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Was just able to finish watching it. ing murderous s bags. And yet we have a President who continues the murderous policies expanding it to killing Americans citizens, and then protecting these assholes from what they did as well. People need to start getting real and let go of their loyalty to corrupt parties.
you can't find an evidence to justifiy the war because it was indeed a blunder and the government didn't expect in the first place that the war would've lasted that long and cost that much. you have every right to impugn their initial motives but it doesn't make much sense to blame anyone when the war is already done tbh.
i never support any war because would cost big and it's all taxpayer money, not because i think it's a sin or guilt to kill so many "innocent" iraqis or to overturn a government that didn't seem to have any WMD. i bet there were more iraqis killed by saddam during his dictatorship that lasted 3 decades something, than those who lost their lives in the iraq war started 2003. saddam's government had been funding those terrorist organizations like taliban and hamas, and you can't ensure there wouldn't have been another 9/11 attack in the past decade with saddam staying in power.
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