Reply With Quote
Here's the link:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...should-propose
The only thing is that this trade hurts the Spurs back-up point guard depth...even though Mills and Neal are more shooting guards than point guards.
found this on Bleacher Report and this could be a realistic trade the Spurs can do:
San Antonio Spurs receive: Al Jefferson
Utah Jazz receive: Stephen Jackson, Marreese Speights, Patrick Mills
Cleveland Cavaliers receive: Gary Neal, DeJuan Blair
Last but not least—the Al Jefferson drama:
Chris Sheridan of Sheridan Hoops broke the news about a potential deal between the Spurs and the Utah Jazz, in which San Antonio would acquire center Al Jefferson, as the Jazz attempt to deal the big man prior to the expiration of his contract.
In Sheridan's report, in which he labeled the Spurs as "the front-runners to land Al Jefferson in a trade with the Utah Jazz – and they are frontrunners like Secretariat was in the 1973 Belmont Stakes," Sheridan proposed a deal in which the Spurs would send Stephen Jackson, Tiago Splitter and Patty Mills for Jefferson.
The inclusion of Splitter's name drew immediate backlash from the San Antonio community, which was unwilling to consider parting with their newest frontcourt starter.
Though including Splitter may at first seem like the only way to interest Utah, adding a third team to the mix would certainly add to the possibilities.
Marreese Speights was recently sent from the Memphis Grizzlies to the Cleveland Cavaliers, where he has been excellent.
Despite his production, his time in Cleveland may be short-lived, as another deal involving the big man may be developing, per Marc Stein of ESPN:
Don't be shocked if the Cavaliers decide to move Speights on again before the Feb. 21 deadline.
The Cavs obviously aren't in the playoff hunt and word is they're already receiving interest in Speights, who possesses a $4.5 million player option for next season. The Cavs are also armed with $12 million in expiring contracts and roughly $4 million in leftover cap space for the summer, which means they've got the tools to continue to be active before this deadline.
In return for Speights, the Spurs could send the Cavaliers Gary Neal to assist with their bench production, as well as DeJuan Blair—should Cleveland ask for him too, in order to fill the hole in the frontcourt.
Speights, who has proven to be just as talented as Splitter at times while also being younger and more affordable, should draw the attention of the Jazz, who would also receive Jackson and Mills, both of whom were included in Sheridan's original trade.
If needed, future picks could be included, as might a European prospect. With a rising star in Speights, a point guard to fill the void in Utah's offense as well as a valuable veteran who also possesses an extremely attractive expiring deal, it would be hard to imagine the Jazz not even considering parting ways with their soon-to-be free agent.
The Spurs would have to bid farewell to an abundance of players, but they would be acquiring Al Jefferson in the process without having to include Splitter.
Jefferson, like Hickson, would give the Spurs another big man to help them go deep into the playoffs, while also providing them with a valuable asset for the future.
Here's the link:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...should-propose
The only thing is that this trade hurts the Spurs back-up point guard depth...even though Mills and Neal are more shooting guards than point guards.
So, of the 6 players in that trade, the Spurs send out the 4 worst and receive the best.If they had spent more than a minute on this and done a little bit of research they'd have included CoJo instead of Mills.
Good point.
I guess they got the Splitter backlash and was trying to think of new trades on the fly.
Sjax out again with personal issues...I'm guessing He's pissed about the trade talk
Naw...I believe there is real issues going on with his family. Pop has always been a straight shooter when it comes to trades.
Your guess would be wrong.
whats Jefferson salary agreement?
Losing 4 players and gaining 1? Well, if it gets the Spurs Al Jefferson (or milsap), just about any deal which doesn't involve Tiago, Kawhi, and the Big 3 should be executed. I would hate to lose Neal though. He is better than many here think, and he will win the Spurs a few games. I know alot of people here are cold on Neal, but without him, Spurs lose to the Cavs the other week tbh. Yeah his chuck ball can be painful, but he has improved with passing and his in between game, not to mention his defense. Plus he's cheap. I think Jax is done though, and using his contract to gain a player with caliber of Al Jeff is a no brainer.
Pipe dream that the trade would happen, but honestly the only trade I have seen including Jackson that would give the Spurs better depth. Still think the Spurs would miss Jackson's toughness in the playoffs, but Jefferson would always be a threat and might learn some better team defense.
You can see why these trade articles live on. The thought of Duncan, Splitter and Jefferson on the front court is enticing.
Side note- how long would it take the fans to think of Big Al when Jefferson's name is brought up? I think it would take me at least 6 months to not think of RJ stinking up the lineup and being soft.
Neal playing with Irving...nice
I also like Neal, but the Spurs have to give something to get something. I like this trade.
EDIT: Contract details??? Thats not minor
I hate this deal because I think that that is so much change for just 1 player. It's past mid-season and you think you want to change all the cohesion and gameplay style to accommodate 1 player who at best is a 4th option on offense and not a defensive juggernaut on the other side of the court? I just don't see it.
Maybe for Josh Smith, I can see it a little but even with that guy, still a 4th option and but a capable defender.
Heck I sure wouldn't mind having Marreese Speights.
Why would the Cavs want to trade Speights for Blair/Neal?
They really like Speights and Blair is being sold on the cheap right now. Besides, if they want Neal (or Blair) they can just bid on them this offseason.
Utah Gets
Blair
Jackson
Cory Joseph
1st Rounder
Spurs Get
Al Jefferson/Paul Milsap
+ trade filler
Millsap: http://basketball.realgm.com/tradech..._trade/6243625
Jefferson: http://basketball.realgm.com/tradech..._trade/6243626
They add up. Except that the Jazz have 15 players under contract and would have to cut two players outright in order to even make this work.
Oh, and whatever filler the Spurs get back would have to include a backup SF. Not sure I trust whomever that might end up being.
Last edited by Darkwaters; 02-19-2013 at 01:37 PM.
this deal seems kinda possible to me.
i really don't want to see sjax traded. i'll never forget his performance in the okc series last year. i think al jefferson would be worth it, though. jefferson has a hard on for timmy. if he came here and timmy became his mentor. watch out for jefferson.
blair to cavs made sense last year, makes sense this year. if anybody can get quality minutes out of blair, i bet it's the team closest to pitt. blair always shines there, and i'm also a byron scott fan.
i love the idea of the spurs trading neal. he's kinda in the same boat as blair. undersized on the defensive end. quality players on offensive. expiring, so they need to be cashed in on the trade market. i don't want either re-signed for more than minimum. most importantly, getting rid of them fixes rotation problems with mills and baynes.
speaking of mills. he's the one part of this trade i just don't like. he makes sense for utah cause utah needs a point. it also makes sense to give cojo a chance to move onto the team and get minutes.
i just like mills. i believe in him with his speed and 3. i think point is the one area on a team that can afford a little ineptness on defense. see tony parker. i believe in a mills and baynes aussie connection, like a believe in a decolo diaw frechy connection. add manu, jefferson, or bonner it doesn't matter. that's scary bench. i don't care how many open roster spots that leaves.
Jefferson would improve defensively given the scenario of being yelled at by pop, the system, and he not being the primary defensive guy, also him being mentored by tim duncan.. unless we get another point guard spurs are gambling on manu's health... this is the first year that if we had a good backup pg we would not rely on manus health... but it is what it is.
You should have used blue font tbh
Not that I'm much of a fan of the any of the Spurs players in this proposal, but there's no way the Spurs are going to gut their backcourt/wings in a 4-for-1 deal for a PF/C. This deal would leave the Spurs with just three legitimate wings for two positions - Manu, Green, Kawhi (De Colo would have to focus on PG almost exclusively with Mills gone), and no backup SF.
diaw would be a 3 if jefferson were here
also decolo would move to 2 because cojo would be getting called up for sure. i'd rather have decolo as one so i don't like that aspect of this hypothetical trade. but that would be the rotation.
Cory Joseph is not suddenly going to become the Spurs primary back up PG for the playoff stretch, that's absurd. If he was capable of that he'd already be in the rotation. And Diaw would be a liablility playing major minutes at SF, he's not a wing player anymore.
Try again.
I am always amazed at how many people actually read Bleacher Report.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
