Miami Heat Rumors – DeJuan Blair Trade Possible?

[loveforthegame]

Pop doesn't appear to trust Baynes yet. And if we trade Blair without getting some type of big back then we're screwed. We'd essentially be left with Duncan, Splitter, Diaw, and Bonner.

[Darkwaters]

Blair, for all his flaws, is still an NBA quality player that has survived in the league for three years and even started on one of the best teams in the league. While he would be available next season as a free agent, he could still be attractive to a team like the Heat. They don't have a lot of money, so they need a cheap big they can bring off the bench. Blair can do the things they need him to do, namely, rebound, run the floor, and finish on Lebron's passes. And why not give up a late first rounder in a weak draft. There is no guarantee that the person they draft late will be as good as Blair, or even make it in the NBA at all. Blair, for his flaws, is still a proven commodity that a championship team would gamble on.

That argument would only add up if he had carried some of that productivity over into the playoffs. Instead, he went from starting to 15th man when the games started to count. Besides, this is the Spurs afterall. We start Danny Green and bring Manu Ginobili off the bench. It doesn't really matter who starts...but rather who finishes. And Blair consistently was on the court at the start of the game, but on the bench in crunch time.

And regarding the Heat...yea, they could probably use him. Frankly, if you're tall (or in Blair's case, stocky), can steal some minutes in the post, and occasionally have a pulse, the Heat could use you. But I'm pretty sure I've already made several posts in this thread about how we shouldn't trade with other contenders. Although, putting Blair on the Heat would probably gut their defense to the extent that it'd actually be a bonus to us. But still, I wouldn't trade with the Heat regardless.

[bus driver]

blair would dominate diaw in the finals ...............

keep blair .............

ban yourself

+1

[DrunkTXLabrat]

x2. i have a hard to speculating what the offer could even be.

battier maybe, but that requires bonner for cap requirement.

james jones or reshard lewis?... yuck!

norris cole?... yeah cause decolo, mills, and cojo really deserve a slap

i can't make sense of miami's pick situation, but my best guess. [s]basically cleveland is waiting to take the best possible miami 1st. so miami can offer their late 1st or 2nd? or philly's 1st this year. but phillys pick would have to be 15 or later.[/s]

i'm thinkin james jones and phillys 1st is the spurs interest.

forget miami picks. a miami 2nd is a low ball offer, even for blair. a philly mid/late 1st is too much, for blair alone. i'm thinkin a james jones contract dump makes the difference.

spurs can buy jones out, or not. maybe 10 day a dejaun summers,marcus landry, etc? maybe just another stretch the court 3 baller, with inside knowledge on the heat?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

dang it, strikeout fail!

[cd021]

Would probably be something like Blair for Rashard Lewis + 2nd round pick.

I like that Lewis is one of the better stretch fours in the league (Stretching out to the 3 point line). I actually think they would move a 1st rounder simply because they move one last year to avoid paying guaranteed money.

[cd021]

Pop doesn't appear to trust Baynes yet. And if we trade Blair without getting some type of big back then we're screwed. We'd essentially be left with Duncan, Splitter, Diaw, and Bonner.

To be fair to Baynes, he's only played 6 games and only in of those game where actually minutes in a compe ive game.

[cd021]

I'd take James and Bosh

Keep the dinosaur, I'll take Lebron.

[cd021]

Now one thing that the Heat CAN do is trade the less favorable to their pick and the 76ers' pick whenever they get it. So if the pick was exchanged this season, they'd give it up. If it was exchanged next season, they'd give up their own. In 2015, they'd give up the 6ers' pick. And in 2016, they'd give up their own. I believe such a trade is possible under the CBA, as Minnesota is in a similar situation with their pick, Memphis' pick and Phoenix.

Wait ... What? Also if Miami trade their pick last season, they can't trade this seasons pick unless they actually have the 76ers pick or that might be what you were saying.

[Darkwaters]

Pop doesn't appear to trust Baynes yet. And if we trade Blair without getting some type of big back then we're screwed. We'd essentially be left with Duncan, Splitter, Diaw, and Bonner.

Pop doesn't seem to trust Blair yet either.

[Chinook]

Wait ... What? Also if Miami trade their pick last season, they can't trade this seasons pick unless they actually have the 76ers pick or that might be what you were saying.

Last season's pick doesn't affect this season. You only need to not trade consecutive future picks.

Also, Miami didn't trade their pick last season; they used their pick and traded the player to Philadelphia for a future pick. That's completely different.

[Budkin]

They have nothing to give us. Basically we would be giving Blair away.

[aal04]

Could probably get Bosh for Blair considering Boshs value after asg

[cd98]

Heat could give us a back up point guard and/or a first round draft pick. It would be a late round pick in a weak draft, but it would be something for a player that is leaving after this season. Miami could really use Blair off the bench.

Someone here said he would get scored on a lot. Maybe that's true. But from what I've watched of Blair, he's pretty good at stripping big men of the ball and being active and generating turnovers. Couple that with Miami's unstoppable transition game, and he could actually be a nice pick up for them.

[cd021]

Last season's pick doesn't affect this season. You only need to not trade consecutive future picks.

Also, Miami didn't trade their pick last season; they used their pick and traded the player to Philadelphia for a future pick. That's completely different.

Thats where i got confused, i thought they move their pick before using it in the draft last year.

[cd021]

Could probably get Bosh for Blair considering Boshs value after asg

He got more dispected than Brandon Knight.

[cd98]

He got more dispected than Brandon Knight.

Are you referring to Parker and Paul on the court or Lil Wayne off the court?

[Chinook]

Thats where i got confused, i thought they move their pick before using it in the draft last year.

They "did." But there's a cut off on the day before the draft where teams are not allowed to trade their actual picks. Any time you hear about a team trading a pick on draft night it's actually misleading. The team is just agreeing to draft a player for another team and trade that player's rights for an agreed-upon package. That's why the Pacers are considered the team that drafted Leonard even though they almost certainly would not have if the trade didn't happen.

Keep in mind, though, that this loophole isn't what allows Miami to trade Philadelphia's pick. A team can always trade away their first for the upcoming draft, so long as they have a first in the following draft. So even if the Heat had traded their pick before draft night, they would still have been able to move this pick now. The rule prohibiting teams from trading consecutive picks is agnostic to past seasons.

For example, the Spurs can trade their first for this season even though they traded last season's first (the actual pick). But they can't trade away this year's pick AND next year's pick. They can, however, trade next year's pick along with the rights to whatever player they draft with this year's pick on or after draft night.

[Seventyniner]

And where I had it wrong was assuming that Miami can't trade either Philly's 2013 protected pick or their own in 2014 at the trade deadline.

The Heat can trade the Philly pick at the trade deadline because they'll still have their own in 2014, but they can't trade their own 2014 pick because the 2013 pick may not be conferred until 2016. Or am I wrong about this too?

[Chinook]

And where I had it wrong was assuming that Miami can't trade either Philly's 2013 protected pick or their own in 2014 at the trade deadline.

The Heat can trade the Philly pick at the trade deadline because they'll still have their own in 2014, but they can't trade their own 2014 pick because the 2013 pick may not be conferred until 2016. Or am I wrong about this too?

As far as I know, you have it exactly right now. The only thing is that Philadelphia would give up a seconds in 2016 (along with their 2015 second), not their first.

EDIT: The Heat also can't trade their 2014 pick because they're missing their 2015 pick.

[Seventyniner]

As far as I know, you have it exactly right now. The only thing is that Philadelphia would give up two seconds in 2016, not their first.

EDIT: The Heat also can't trade their 2014 pick because they're missing their 2015 pick.

Ok, thanks. This might be a hidden downside to trading for a pick that has funky protections on it.

[sananspursfan21]

Um, they obviously just looked at his height and thought he must be a SF?

it's amazing what little research these professional writers do when they go on a national type stage

[CGD]

MÍA has been linked to Blair since last summer. I could see them giving the Spurs their late first rounder for him. Spurs would be armed with two late first round picks to include in a bigger trade package. Given the lateness of MIAs pick, I can see this deal getting done.

[Raven]

Mike Miller? James Jones? Both are above average shooters. I'd trade Blair for Miller straight up if that were possible.

not sure if serious

[Obstructed_View]

you fcking troll

I wonder whose troll this is..

If you'd just put him on your ignore list, it wouldn't matter. Also, those of us who have ignored his posts wouldn't see every time you quote one.