Have fun Liberals

[Clipper Nation]

I bet the majority of people here can accurately predict Wild Cobra's upcoming response.

"Lib ! Hatemonger!"

[clambake]

You are viewing WC's comments in a time capsul, as if he can not change them.

what do you have in mind?

[CuckingFunt]

You are viewing WC's comments in a time capsul, as if he can not change them.

Considering the lengths to which he frequently goes to defend those comments, I think it's pretty safe to assume they haven't changed.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That's quite noble of you snc but we are talking about the guy that says that he is not racist for saying he dislikes and distrusts black people because he also doesn't like white people. That argument 'works' for him.

[SA210]

I find it very telling of people when all they want to do online is bash a fellow poster to no end every moment or chance they get. Very telling of the people themselves. Don't care what side they are politically, people seem ready to bash and tear down someone and get joy out of it. Most of the time it just happens to be towards someone who thinks differently. It amazes me how people simply just want YES men on this message board. It's very easy to always gang up on one poster with different views. Bunch of trolls doing what trolls do, no life, just spending whatever free time they have, for some it's 24/7, just to try their best in degrading a fellow poster. lol Amazing. Instead of using the political forum for it's intended use, let's all just make ourselves feel better about our loser lives and jump on the bandwagon. I hardly ever even agree with WC, definitely don't agree with him 99% of the time, but the attacks on him and on certain other posters says more about the people attacking than it does the person they are attacking, regardless of the lies anyone tries to say after this post. "They bring it on themselves, you're not perfect, he does it too, you just called us losers, etc.. blah blah blah". Pathetic. I guess people don't feel loved at home so they must hide behind computers and talk all the smack they want that they would NEVER talk in person lol. Insecurities standing out big time, and every-time they follow posters around just to troll and hate. Major insecurities and personal problems, that's for sure.

[clambake]

you just hurt my feelings

[redzero]

Wild Cobra claims that he was trying to TRICK people with this thread, and people act like he is being unfairly persecuted? He comes off as a either way.

[boutons_deux]

Shazbot with his typical hate mongering.

I am Christ-like, driving the LIE mongerers out the Temple of Democracy.

[Wild Cobra]

WC, if you use race to inform your decision about something, that's pretty much the textbook case of racism.



Edit: I guess you could argue that you don't believe there's an inherent difference in the races, the difference is only because of quotas.

Like all words, the definition has changed in some sources because of usage. The one thing all dictionary agree on is that racism is the belief that one race is superior to another. The rest that adds confusion.

Find an older dictionary, and see what it says.

[Wild Cobra]

CF.

I'll spend some time on a response in about 10 hours. I have to leave soon.

[clambake]

you don't need to. snc said you could change.

[Blake]

I am Christ-like, driving the LIE mongerers out the Temple of Democracy.

[ChumpDumper]

I find it very telling of people when all they want to do online is bash a fellow poster to no end every moment or chance they get. Very telling of the people themselves. Don't care what side they are politically, people seem ready to bash and tear down someone and get joy out of it. Most of the time it just happens to be towards someone who thinks differently. It amazes me how people simply just want YES men on this message board. It's very easy to always gang up on one poster with different views. Bunch of trolls doing what trolls do, no life, just spending whatever free time they have, for some it's 24/7, just to try their best in degrading a fellow poster. lol Amazing. Instead of using the political forum for it's intended use, let's all just make ourselves feel better about our loser lives and jump on the bandwagon. I hardly ever even agree with WC, definitely don't agree with him 99% of the time, but the attacks on him and on certain other posters says more about the people attacking than it does the person they are attacking, regardless of the lies anyone tries to say after this post. "They bring it on themselves, you're not perfect, he does it too, you just called us losers, etc.. blah blah blah". Pathetic. I guess people don't feel loved at home so they must hide behind computers and talk all the smack they want that they would NEVER talk in person lol. Insecurities standing out big time, and every-time they follow posters around just to troll and hate. Major insecurities and personal problems, that's for sure.

If you had any balls at all you would post what you think really happened on 9/11 instead of making lame post count smack, you flaming hypocrite. You have major insecurities and personal problems, that's for sure.

[Wild Cobra]

No. I say that you are racist because you have on several occasions expressed views that are prejudiced based on race and because you actively support policies that promote systemic racism.

You refuse to see what I am doing. I am pointing out that such a system is flawed. Have you heard the saying that some of the worse things come from good intentions?

I do not support racist policies. I do not support special rights either.

wiki link: Special Rights

first part:

Special rights is a term originally used by libertarians to refer to laws granting rights to one or more groups which are not extended to other groups. Ideas of special rights are controversial, as they clash with the principle of equality before the law.

Potential examples of special rights include affirmative action policies or hate crime legislation with regard to ethnic, religious or sexual minorities, or the state recognition of marriage as a group with different taxation than those who are non-married.

No. The closest I would find, were I inclined to look, would be your statements that black people make you personally uncomfortable because they are generally uncivilized and your refusal to be operated on by a black surgeon.

Now first off, you are twisting my actual words. If you must lie to find victory, then I feel sorry for you. Your interpretation of my words, and your paraphrasing them is wrong, to the point of a lie. I suggest you look up my quotes referring to that.

So... even at that...

I conclude your beef is that I am not racially sensitive. I bring into conversations situations statistical facts.

Please show me where I said i would never be operated on by a black surgeon. Search all you want. It doesn't exist, liar.

Any confusion in our disagreement is not related to my misunderstanding of the term, I assure you.

If not, then just your hatred of people like me, who refuse to treat black people like kittens.

Affirmative Action is not a quota system.

I have covered this before. In it's original conception, affirmative action was good and proper. Most affirmative action programs have become quota systems though.

I have already, several times, specified quota based affirmative action.

, why can't you get that though your head?

Affirmative Action does not apply just to issues of race; it has in fact been more beneficial to white women than it has to any other group.

Again, I like affirmative action. As long as it is not either quota based, or preferential in some point system.

Have you ever read the original language of affirmative action when it began? I suggest you look it up, and see how far removed it is from that.

Affirmative Action is not predicated on the belief that "blacks are inferior." The whole "liberals are secret racists" line of thought is one of the more ridiculous talking points that has sprung up in recent years.

Sure it is. There is no other excuse for other than ignorance. Maybe those privileged by it, not wanting to lose those special rights. Anyone honest, unselfish, and informed on the subject, cannot support the quota based or special rights version of affirmative action.

After all these years, the percentage of any employment, schooling, etc. that may have someone that decides that is a racist, is such a small percentage, it no longer is an issue. You can cheery pick and find examples, but then you are being intellectually dishonest.

If I hadn't pointed it out, someone else would have. This thread was destined for failure regardless your intention and/or my reaction.

Just the same. I see little honor in a person who refused to give the benefit of doubt, on such shaky and spun evidence. Doesn't say anything good about your character.

[ChumpDumper]

Please show me where I said i would never be operated on by a black surgeon. Search all you want. It doesn't exist, liar.

You said most smart people simply avoid black surgeons. Do you count yourself among those smart people?

Yes or no.

[Wild Cobra]

You said most smart people simply avoid black surgeons. Do you count yourself among those smart people?

Yes or no.

Yes, I am smart. You obviously are not.

Most ≠ all, you ing moron.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes, I am smart. You obviously are not.

Most ≠ all, you ing moron.

I asked if you counted yourself among those smart people who simply avoid black surgeons altogether.

Thank you for answering honestly.

[CuckingFunt]

You refuse to see what I am doing. I am pointing out that such a system is flawed. Have you heard the saying that some of the worse things come from good intentions?

That's not a saying. The road to is paved with good intentions; that's a saying.

However, all these years and all these conversations later, and you've never brought up a single convincing argument showing that Affirmative Action programs are on such a road. You've never even really tried. Even when I have in the past asked for specific examples of Affirmative Action having been twisted into a quota system or examples of just how such a system operates. You've mentioned several times that Affirmative Action started as one thing, which you claim to support, but has turned into some other thing, which you're against, yet you have failed to offer up even a single shred of support for this assertion.

I do not support racist policies. I do not support special rights either.

wiki link: Special Rights

first part:

Special rights is a term originally used by libertarians to refer to laws granting rights to one or more groups which are not extended to other groups. Ideas of special rights are controversial, as they clash with the principle of equality before the law.

Potential examples of special rights include affirmative action policies or hate crime legislation with regard to ethnic, religious or sexual minorities, or the state recognition of marriage as a group with different taxation than those who are non-married.

All that shows is that "special rights" is a term adopted by Libertarians, not that it refers to a problem that actually exists.

Now first off, you are twisting my actual words. If you must lie to find victory, then I feel sorry for you. Your interpretation of my words, and your paraphrasing them is wrong, to the point of a lie. I suggest you look up my quotes referring to that.

So... even at that...

This is the umpteenth time I've suggested this, but perhaps it would be in your best interest to put more energy into clearly expressing the point you ACTUALLY want to make, and less energy into complaining about the fact I and the rest of the board just won't give you a fair shake. If you're consistently being misunderstood, by EVERYONE, at a certain point it becomes your responsibility to express yourself better. Your failure/inability to do so indicates not that you're being misunderstood, but that you're unhappy with our correct reading of your intentions.

I conclude your beef is that I am not racially sensitive.

It's not. I stated clearly that it wasn't. And provided reasons for why it's not. You're welcome to conclude whatever you like, but know that it has absolutely no basis in reality.

I bring into conversations situations statistical facts.

You don't. Ever. In fact you balk and get defensive when you're asked to provide them.

Please show me where I said i would never be operated on by a black surgeon. Search all you want. It doesn't exist, liar.

You said that smart people would/should avoid them. Whether or not you would personally avoid them or would refuse to be operated on by a black surgeon is incidental. The sentiment remains that black surgeons are more likely than any other racial/ethnic group to have been promoted due to unfair "quota systems" and that they are therefore worthy of additional scrutiny.

If not, then just your hatred of people like me, who refuse to treat black people like kittens.

I don't hate you. As I've said before, I don't know you well enough to hate you. Me calling you a racist is not because I hate you, it's because you say racist . And defend it. A lot.

And there is a tremendous difference between not treating black people like kittens and assuming that black people, based solely on their blackness, are likely promoted only because of "quota systems."

I have covered this before. In it's original conception, affirmative action was good and proper. Most affirmative action programs have become quota systems though.

I have already, several times, specified quota based affirmative action.

, why can't you get that though your head?

You said this before. You've covered it never. I asked you years ago for specific examples of Affirmative Action being treated as a quota system and I'm still waiting. Saying "things have changed" does not, on its own, prove that things have changed.

Again, I like affirmative action. As long as it is not either quota based, or preferential in some point system.

Have you ever read the original language of affirmative action when it began? I suggest you look it up, and see how far removed it is from that.

I have read the verbiage. It hasn't changed. If people/companies are genuinely using quota systems, it is because they do not understand or have misinterpreted Affirmative Action laws. It's not because the laws themselves, or their intended use, have changed.

After all these years, the percentage of any employment, schooling, etc. that may have someone that decides that is a racist, is such a small percentage, it no longer is an issue. You can cheery pick and find examples, but then you are being intellectually dishonest.

I genuinely haven't a clue what you're trying to say here.

Just the same. I see little honor in a person who refused to give the benefit of doubt, on such shaky and spun evidence. Doesn't say anything good about your character.

The fact I pointed out your fake article was fake besmirches my character? For seriously?

I still don't believe, for even an instant, that you knew the article was fake and that you posted it to troll all of us. HOWEVER, if that was actually your intention (and lacking any explanation from you to the contrary), the only way I can see that possibly working would be if your hope was that all of the board liberals would be tricked by the article and would then get up in arms about Ann Coulter's blatant racism. IF that's the case, my pointing out that the article was fake was not me thwarting your plan. It was your plan failing.

Either you failed in being fooled by a spoof article, or you failed in trolling the board liberals, but neither of those were my doing. In other words, man up, take your lumps, and move the on.

[leemajors]

boom

[Wild Cobra]

LOL...

All that, and CF, you still have it wrong.

I may say stuff that racists also say, but that does not make me a racist. I don't use my words in any form off hate, or in any manner that shows I think someone is superior, or inferior by race.

I get tired of intolerant closed minded people like yourself. How about trying to get past your hate, and see what my words actually mean.

[clambake]

we know what you mean.

[Wild Cobra]

we know what you mean.

Which means you are delusional if you cannot accept my words and repeated clarifications. For you to think you know my mind better than I do...

Must be nice, having those delusions of grandeur, and feeling like a god.

[ChumpDumper]

Must be nice, saying all manner of racist stuff and not feeling racist.

[Wild Cobra]

Must be nice, saying all manner of racist stuff and not feeling racist.

Are you so blind, that you don't see you are attempting censorship by using political correctness?

I can say the things I do, because I have no guilt about saying them. I'm not a closet racist like many liberals are who feel guilty, and feel they must atone with special rights for other groups.

Why is it that someone immediately thinks one-way about open and honest words. Doesn't this closed minded prejudice indicate that the problem is yours, not mine?

[clambake]

no way in we think you"re a closet racist.